Notices
S197 Handling Section For everything suspension related, inlcuding brakes, tires, and wheels.

TCS ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-25-2009, 10:54 AM
  #1  
14901490
2nd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
14901490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: webster, ny
Posts: 349
Default TCS ?

should I leave the traction control on or turn it OFF at the track ? & why ?

Thanks !
14901490 is offline  
Old 07-25-2009, 12:06 PM
  #2  
Sleeper_08
4th Gear Member
 
Sleeper_08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,692
Default

I think you'll find that almost everyone turns it off for track use (assuming I remember to). In my car the car, with an SC, it just feels more unstable under hard throttle when traction control is trying to compensate for my right foot. Without the TCS everything just feels better.

It has also been suggested several times that leaving the TCS on will increase rear pad wear.
Sleeper_08 is offline  
Old 07-25-2009, 04:44 PM
  #3  
white_lightning
2nd Gear Member
 
white_lightning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Alberta
Posts: 178
Default

TCS is fas too intrusive for track use. I run the 1/4 mile and TCS will demolish any chance of a quick pass. I would imagine its the same on a road course.
white_lightning is offline  
Old 07-25-2009, 04:48 PM
  #4  
14901490
2nd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
14901490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: webster, ny
Posts: 349
Default

so everyone runs with TCS off.. never even thought about ...WOW THANKS!
14901490 is offline  
Old 07-25-2009, 07:50 PM
  #5  
Norm Peterson
6th Gear Member
 
Norm Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: state of confusion
Posts: 7,635
Default

TCS uses the rear brakes and cuts engine power if it's turned on and gets activated.

I try to remember to turn my car's TCS off every single time I start it up, just on principle. I hate the thought of anybody else's programming - which amounts to the way that they want me to drive - taking over even this little bit of control of my car. They aren't driving it.


Norm

Last edited by Norm Peterson; 07-25-2009 at 07:53 PM.
Norm Peterson is offline  
Old 07-25-2009, 07:51 PM
  #6  
Argonaut
4th Gear Member
 
Argonaut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Harrisburg PA
Posts: 1,778
Default

Yes, off. You should drive the car...not the computer. I laugh at guys with the latest Evos, STIs and M3s with all their electronic gizmos, pretty poor way to learn how to handle a car.
Argonaut is offline  
Old 07-25-2009, 08:24 PM
  #7  
Sleeper_08
4th Gear Member
 
Sleeper_08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,692
Default

My brother told me someone at a Mosport Porsche club event with a new 911 was having trouble with the PSM. It started working again but then failed as he was entering turn 8, which I enter about 70 mph. He was OK but the car was write off!

Last edited by Sleeper_08; 07-26-2009 at 01:13 PM.
Sleeper_08 is offline  
Old 07-26-2009, 07:26 AM
  #8  
Hootna
3rd Gear Member
 
Hootna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location:
Posts: 638
Default

I leave mine on have had no issues. I will take any help I can get....
Hootna is offline  
Old 07-26-2009, 07:44 AM
  #9  
Norm Peterson
6th Gear Member
 
Norm Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: state of confusion
Posts: 7,635
Default

I suppose you can call it 'help' under some situations. But it's a double-edged sword. Do not trust it blindly.

It can also get you into deeper trouble if it lets you get going to a higher speed under poor conditions than you could do all by yourself with no such help. TCS will not make the brakes work any better, or give you increased cornering grip, and once you get going those capabilities will matter a lot more than the ability to accelerate. Think snow/slush/etc. here.

If it teaches you to rely on it, as it eventually will if you always leave it on, you'll likely be in worse shape if it goes MIA as you will never have learned what the car's limits are or how it behaves under extreme conditions.


Norm

Last edited by Norm Peterson; 07-26-2009 at 07:50 AM.
Norm Peterson is offline  
Old 07-26-2009, 05:49 PM
  #10  
zachcrosen
1st Gear Member
 
zachcrosen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 143
Default

I often forget to turn mine off, so I wired in a relay so that the switch defaults to OFF rather than ON. Works great and I only have to turn it on when I drive in the rain. I got the mod off another forum and I don't have a link available.
zachcrosen is offline  


Quick Reply: TCS ?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:51 AM.