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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Yes. They're quite good, dry or wet.

I'm getting enough lateral grip to visibly distort the LR tire and enought lateral load transfer to make both inside tires get visibly "light" at an autocross I ran back in April of this year. Sorry about the picture quality, but it's all I've got that shows much of anything.




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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
Yes. They're quite good, dry or wet.

I'm getting enough lateral load transfer to make both inside tires get visibly "light" at an autocross I ran back in April of this year. Sorry about the picture quality, but it's all I've got that shows much of anything.




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Thank you for the help, they are on order.
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ansibe
Continental ExtremeContact DW.
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Absolutely not!

I just got some for my rears and I'm now looking for something else. Steering response is horrible, and when you turn the car floats into the curve and then bounces back due to the tires. If you want your sporty car to feel floaty like a Buick, yeah, get them, but otherwise stay away from them period.
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by danzcool
Absolutely not!

I just got some for my rears and I'm now looking for something else. Steering response is horrible, and when you turn the car floats into the curve and then bounces back due to the tires. If you want your sporty car to feel floaty like a Buick, yeah, get them, but otherwise stay away from them period.
A surprising opinion. I'm curious what tires you used previous to the DWs? Steering response is mostly front end, not rear, thus it makes one wonder if something else is going on here.

At any rate, regardless of the tire's "feel" (which is a subjective opinion) there is no denying the Continental DWs have great grip for a street tire. Here is data from my TraqMate taken at Summit Point Shanendoah this past spring. This was during a dry session. The lower graph is lateral G vs Distance. I have highlighted in the red circle 1.15G. This is a left hand corner known as "Big Bend". Its about 75MPH and notice how round the curve is, indicating a large radius corner. This isn't a transient peak G reading but rather a fairly sustained one. Anything over 1G is pretty damn good for a street tire with 300 trad wear rating. I also ran these tires in the wet and really like them - way, way better than Toyo R888.

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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I was on Yokohama Advan Sports prior.
initial turn-in is great, the fronts (GY eagle F1 Asymmetrics) will take whatever I throw at them. the issue is the rear tires are acting like another spring, taking the intial turn-in and then bouncing back. The actual grip of the continentals is great, I'm not denying that, it's just that this bounce back is killing me, it may be that if they were on all four corners it would balance out. As it is, I'm having to make a steering correction after the intial turn-in. I did some lateral pushing on the front and rear and I can see that the rear tires have much more side to side flex/roll that the fronts which have virtually none. I'm open to suggestions.
Old Sep 21, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Argonaut
A surprising opinion. I'm curious what tires you used previous to the DWs? Steering response is mostly front end, not rear, thus it makes one wonder if something else is going on here.

At any rate, regardless of the tire's "feel" (which is a subjective opinion) there is no denying the Continental DWs have great grip for a street tire. Here is data from my TraqMate taken at Summit Point Shanendoah this past spring. This was during a dry session. The lower graph is lateral G vs Distance. I have highlighted in the red circle 1.15G. This is a left hand corner known as "Big Bend". Its about 75MPH and notice how round the curve is, indicating a large radius corner. This isn't a transient peak G reading but rather a fairly sustained one. Anything over 1G is pretty damn good for a street tire with 300 trad wear rating. I also ran these tires in the wet and really like them - way, way better than Toyo R888.
Upon further review...
It turns out that the tire shop tweaked my toe settings out at the same time without telling me, so I was steering as I was accustomed, which turns out was a bit sloppier than it should have been, so my return to center wasn't quite center. I was wrong, these are great tires, I would recommend.
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