me vs. s2000
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RE: me vs. s2000
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
s2000,crank -240hp, 162tq 2800lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
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hey he might have a factory freak, one of the forum member have been telling me that the V6ers are the best engines that the ford line up has...
But I was thinking...if the GT mustangs have 300hp...then to the ground you all are putting ....what I dont know...230-250 hp to the ground maybe...less with a auto?
Then that means, this guy is only 20 hp aways from actually beating a GT with those minor mods...
Welll...I am not saying that he doesnt have 210 hp...because he might...but he never said that he really did...he only gave us a estiment, and nothing is wrong with that...I just didnt know the GT and the V6 were so close in power.
-Justin
But I was thinking...if the GT mustangs have 300hp...then to the ground you all are putting ....what I dont know...230-250 hp to the ground maybe...less with a auto?
Then that means, this guy is only 20 hp aways from actually beating a GT with those minor mods...
Welll...I am not saying that he doesnt have 210 hp...because he might...but he never said that he really did...he only gave us a estiment, and nothing is wrong with that...I just didnt know the GT and the V6 were so close in power.
-Justin
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ur logic is pretty good, but instead of following ur gut ur willing to believe that a car with those mods will nip at the heals of a GT running 13.8 on a bad day. one of the other guys in here got a 6er to the 14s but he had every bolt on imaginable. and rana 14.4 if im not mistaken. he was probably making around 220rwhp. with EVERYTHING
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RE: me vs. s2000
ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260
no kidding
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
235 may not be TOO far off, but i still think ur readin high. the GT 3v tends to see some pretty big gains from CAI tune, but its a much better breathing motor, and larger. but 235 bhp translates to just shy of 200 rwhp. I would say if u were to strap down ud probably made around 180ish give or take 5.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
s2000,crank -240hp, 162tq 2800lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
Yeah.. you're right.. VMP, Evolution, B AMA Chips, Alternative Auto, Brenspeed.... they got us all fooled, they'redummying up all these dyno numbers to "get us".
Why don't you guys do the research. The 4.0 responds very well to mods. Simply going to a GT takeoff muffler nets 7-10 rwhp.. and that's been proven. So, it's true that 200-210 rwhp is possible with cai, custom tune, and exhaust.
The real numbers are at the track. N/A 4.0s are running 14.1-14.7 -- and that's stock 04 and older GT times. If you look at FI 4.0s.. 11s & 12s.
All these numbers are not myths. Check out the 4.0 forums, look at the evidence.. there are some very REAL guys making some very REAL numbers.
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RE: me vs. s2000
ORIGINAL: AmericanICON
What???!!! You guys are nuts! You're going to say, after all his mods, he is putting down 180 rwhp? A STOCK manual 4.0 puts down 179-186 at the wheels!
Yeah.. you're right.. VMP, Evolution, B AMA Chips, Alternative Auto, Brenspeed.... they got us all fooled, they'redummying up all these dyno numbers to "get us".
Why don't you guys do the research. The 4.0 responds very well to mods. Simply going to a GT takeoff muffler nets 7-10 rwhp.. and that's been proven. So, it's true that 200-210 rwhp is possible with cai, custom tune, and exhaust.
The real numbers are at the track. N/A 4.0s are running 14.1-14.7 -- and that's stock 04 and older GT times. If you look at FI 4.0s.. 11s & 12s.
All these numbers are not myths. Check out the 4.0 forums, look at the evidence.. there are some very REAL guys making some very REAL numbers.
ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260
no kidding
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
235 may not be TOO far off, but i still think ur readin high. the GT 3v tends to see some pretty big gains from CAI tune, but its a much better breathing motor, and larger. but 235 bhp translates to just shy of 200 rwhp. I would say if u were to strap down ud probably made around 180ish give or take 5.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
s2000,crank -240hp, 162tq 2800lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
Yeah.. you're right.. VMP, Evolution, B AMA Chips, Alternative Auto, Brenspeed.... they got us all fooled, they'redummying up all these dyno numbers to "get us".
Why don't you guys do the research. The 4.0 responds very well to mods. Simply going to a GT takeoff muffler nets 7-10 rwhp.. and that's been proven. So, it's true that 200-210 rwhp is possible with cai, custom tune, and exhaust.
The real numbers are at the track. N/A 4.0s are running 14.1-14.7 -- and that's stock 04 and older GT times. If you look at FI 4.0s.. 11s & 12s.
All these numbers are not myths. Check out the 4.0 forums, look at the evidence.. there are some very REAL guys making some very REAL numbers.
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im going to refer to my last post, a guy on here (who i happen to have alot of respect for his driving abilitiy) took his 4.0 to 14.4 with every bolton and a deadon tune. i dont know where ur getting ur numbers, but it takes about 220 rwhp to do that. a stock 04 GT makes about 230 rwhp. u WILL NOT gain 10 rwhp in a v6 from switching to dual exhaust. these things havent been proven, u just say that for the sake of argument
if hes at 235 bhp then 200 rwhp isnt out of the question. 25hp just seems like alot out of a cai and a tune. especially when other people are having to do alot more for marginal gains. personally, id take it as a slap in the face if I did all that work and someone came on claiming double my numbers
if hes at 235 bhp then 200 rwhp isnt out of the question. 25hp just seems like alot out of a cai and a tune. especially when other people are having to do alot more for marginal gains. personally, id take it as a slap in the face if I did all that work and someone came on claiming double my numbers
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RE: me vs. s2000
Well.. if you don't trust my numbers.. then check out this post of lies:
https://mustangforums.com/m_3154038/tm.htm
https://mustangforums.com/m_3154038/tm.htm
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RE: me vs. s2000
ORIGINAL: AmericanICON
Well.. if you don't trust my numbers.. then check out this post of lies:
https://mustangforums.com/m_3154038/tm.htm
Well.. if you don't trust my numbers.. then check out this post of lies:
https://mustangforums.com/m_3154038/tm.htm
IT'S ALL LIES I SAY, LIES! haha
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RE: me vs. s2000
ORIGINAL: AmericanICON
What???!!! You guys are nuts! You're going to say, after all his mods, he is putting down 180 rwhp? A STOCK manual 4.0 puts down 179-186 at the wheels!
Yeah.. you're right.. VMP, Evolution, B AMA Chips, Alternative Auto, Brenspeed.... they got us all fooled, they'redummying up all these dyno numbers to "get us".
Why don't you guys do the research. The 4.0 responds very well to mods. Simply going to a GT takeoff muffler nets 7-10 rwhp.. and that's been proven. So, it's true that 200-210 rwhp is possible with cai, custom tune, and exhaust.
The real numbers are at the track. N/A 4.0s are running 14.1-14.7 -- and that's stock 04 and older GT times. If you look at FI 4.0s.. 11s & 12s.
All these numbers are not myths. Check out the 4.0 forums, look at the evidence.. there are some very REAL guys making some very REAL numbers.
ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260
no kidding
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
235 may not be TOO far off, but i still think ur readin high. the GT 3v tends to see some pretty big gains from CAI tune, but its a much better breathing motor, and larger. but 235 bhp translates to just shy of 200 rwhp. I would say if u were to strap down ud probably made around 180ish give or take 5.
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
Not touchy, but I think there are so many people who are mislead about hp claims. Just trying to shead some truth on the matter. But no worries over here man/! lol
u can go ahead and claim ur 210 rwhp if u want, but for every time u post it u misinform someone who may actually be wanting to learn about these cars. Travesty.....
s2000,crank -240hp, 162tq 2800lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
me,crank - 235hp, 270tq 3300lb
Yeah.. you're right.. VMP, Evolution, B AMA Chips, Alternative Auto, Brenspeed.... they got us all fooled, they'redummying up all these dyno numbers to "get us".
Why don't you guys do the research. The 4.0 responds very well to mods. Simply going to a GT takeoff muffler nets 7-10 rwhp.. and that's been proven. So, it's true that 200-210 rwhp is possible with cai, custom tune, and exhaust.
The real numbers are at the track. N/A 4.0s are running 14.1-14.7 -- and that's stock 04 and older GT times. If you look at FI 4.0s.. 11s & 12s.
All these numbers are not myths. Check out the 4.0 forums, look at the evidence.. there are some very REAL guys making some very REAL numbers.
the new edge GT's dyno at around 240 RWHP
you guys can compare cars all day long... facts are facts a 93 octane tune with a CAI and a catback does just exactly what it was intended for.. 200-210 RWHP
and if you want to compare the GT to the 4.0 I guess 20RWHP from just a tune is impossible too huh?
http://www.alternativeauto.com/prods...tang_tune.html
specter... you know nothing about this subject and it shows... stop posting
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ORIGINAL: Morbid Intentions
so you have a 4.0 stang?
or do you watch V6 stangs with tunes and CAI's being tuned and dyno run on your freetime every day?
talk about what you know, not what you assume
to the poster... coupled with your manual tranny you are correct... you probably have 200-210RWHP after your mods
ORIGINAL: 06SaLeEn
F/I cars correct!!! Not V6 4.0.
ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed
It's pretty easy to pick up 50+whp with an exhaust, intake and tune with F/I cars
You can also probably get that much from a C6 Z06 with those mods.
It's pretty easy to pick up 50+whp with an exhaust, intake and tune with F/I cars
You can also probably get that much from a C6 Z06 with those mods.
F/I cars correct!!! Not V6 4.0.
or do you watch V6 stangs with tunes and CAI's being tuned and dyno run on your freetime every day?
talk about what you know, not what you assume
to the poster... coupled with your manual tranny you are correct... you probably have 200-210RWHP after your mods
Actually I do. I have dynoed and worked on these cars, all on a mustang dyno. 210 rwhp with a CAI and Canned tune is not happening. Sorry not happening, I suppose a custom dyno tune with a dyno jet might show those numbers. I have just no seen it. I mean your talking about 210 rwhp on a 4.0 V6. a New edge V8 dyno's 210-215 rwhp. Now the 4.0 do respond well to mods. Just not that much with a CAI. Not knocking the 4.0 at all, there are some really quick s/c and t/c cars.
No reason for you to be rude. But dont assume I dont know what I am talking about.
I think you can expect 20rwhp out of a Canned tune and CAI. Maybe 25 but usually I have seen 20. Custom dyno tune can get you some more and better throttle response.