Talon!?
So...Theres some kid in an Eagle Talon that Revs himself silly everytime he drives past my parked car. Anyone know around how much power these things are pushing? I don't know much about these past the fact that some of them have turbos. I can hear the turbo when he revs, I just don't know how easily I can embaress him.
Ideas?
Ideas?
I believe that the later model top-of-the-line Talons were good for high 14's from the factory. From there it will depend on the car's upkeep, the existance of mods, and the driver's ability. Past that I don't rally know too much.
As a side note, check out this Talon http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature...lon/index.html That is one crazy car!
As a side note, check out this Talon http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature...lon/index.html That is one crazy car!
my 92 turbo AWD laser (same as a 92 talon, a little lighter as the laser has less options) went mid 14s with a boost leak..the only mods are turbo back exhaust and balance shafts removed. there is alot of free power to be had from turbo DSMs.
from what ive seen 4.0s do in person, if hes stock, you should be able to run with him...however, it takes VERY little work to put them into the 13s...and ive seen an almost stock AWD turbo DSM do it in person many times. some guys have done it with just what i have done to my car, but they have more experience launching them than i do...
28hopup has similar mods to yours, i believe...and he ran mid 14s, if im not mistaken...
the bottom line, if he can drive, and its a turbo car, youre not going to embarrass him...it will be a very tight race. if he has even slight mods, he should take you. however, they also made NA models, which ive also raced...we took a FWD NA model and ran low 16s with it...with a new clutch and 75 shot it went 14.90s...so if it is an NA model, you should SMOKE him..
for the turbo models, it depends on how well he can launch, what mods, etc...there are guys who have gone 10s with the stock turbo on a 1g DSM, so a turbo change isnt needed to make big power...that car was stripped down, but ive seen stock turbo cars go into the 12s.
from what ive seen 4.0s do in person, if hes stock, you should be able to run with him...however, it takes VERY little work to put them into the 13s...and ive seen an almost stock AWD turbo DSM do it in person many times. some guys have done it with just what i have done to my car, but they have more experience launching them than i do...
28hopup has similar mods to yours, i believe...and he ran mid 14s, if im not mistaken...
the bottom line, if he can drive, and its a turbo car, youre not going to embarrass him...it will be a very tight race. if he has even slight mods, he should take you. however, they also made NA models, which ive also raced...we took a FWD NA model and ran low 16s with it...with a new clutch and 75 shot it went 14.90s...so if it is an NA model, you should SMOKE him..
for the turbo models, it depends on how well he can launch, what mods, etc...there are guys who have gone 10s with the stock turbo on a 1g DSM, so a turbo change isnt needed to make big power...that car was stripped down, but ive seen stock turbo cars go into the 12s.
i have someone who comes by my house and revs his piece of trash scion...we have a stop sign in front of the house, and late at night he likes to do pro-style launches...ive come across him on the streets in the laser, and he wont even look over...
My friend has a 92 talon (stock)he races at the local speedway, and i can beat him in a drag from a dig with my 98 ZX2 (stock). and yes he can drive.
Here's a Wiki
The 1993-1994 base model DL was front-wheel drive and used a weak 92-horsepower 1.8L engine (4G37). The ES model (or just the base Talon before 1993) sported a naturally aspirated 2.0L 135 hp Mitsubishi 4G63 engine. The TSi and TSi AWD models used the same engine but added an intercooled Mitsubishi 14b turbocharger producing 11.06 psi of peak boost from the factory, resulting in 195 horsepower on TSi AWD models. The front-drive TSi produced only 190 due to a more restrictive exhaust system, and automatic models only had 180 due to using a smaller 13g turbocharger and smaller fuel injectors.
The "6-bolt" engine on all Talons built before April 1992 refers to the number of bolts connecting the flywheel to the crankshaft. All 1G Talons built after April 1992 received a freer revving "7-bolt" engine borrowed from the 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution's lighter rods and 7-bolt crankshaft. The 6-bolt engines are prized for their impressive ability to withstand large amounts of boost due to the more robust combination of connecting rods and crankshaft. 25-30 PSI is not uncommon, and 6-bolt engines have been known to handle 500+ hp using the stock internals. The 1G "7-bolt" engines suffer from crankwalk no more than the 1G "6-bolt" engines. The majority of crankwalk cases that affected many "7-bolt" turbo Talon engines were found later in the revised 2G "7-bolt" motors found in 1995-1997 model year Talons.
so if he isnt AWD and doesnt have the 7 bolt you've got him.
Here's a Wiki
The 1993-1994 base model DL was front-wheel drive and used a weak 92-horsepower 1.8L engine (4G37). The ES model (or just the base Talon before 1993) sported a naturally aspirated 2.0L 135 hp Mitsubishi 4G63 engine. The TSi and TSi AWD models used the same engine but added an intercooled Mitsubishi 14b turbocharger producing 11.06 psi of peak boost from the factory, resulting in 195 horsepower on TSi AWD models. The front-drive TSi produced only 190 due to a more restrictive exhaust system, and automatic models only had 180 due to using a smaller 13g turbocharger and smaller fuel injectors.
The "6-bolt" engine on all Talons built before April 1992 refers to the number of bolts connecting the flywheel to the crankshaft. All 1G Talons built after April 1992 received a freer revving "7-bolt" engine borrowed from the 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution's lighter rods and 7-bolt crankshaft. The 6-bolt engines are prized for their impressive ability to withstand large amounts of boost due to the more robust combination of connecting rods and crankshaft. 25-30 PSI is not uncommon, and 6-bolt engines have been known to handle 500+ hp using the stock internals. The 1G "7-bolt" engines suffer from crankwalk no more than the 1G "6-bolt" engines. The majority of crankwalk cases that affected many "7-bolt" turbo Talon engines were found later in the revised 2G "7-bolt" motors found in 1995-1997 model year Talons.
so if he isnt AWD and doesnt have the 7 bolt you've got him.


