LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: TheStig
How do you figure the 5.0 was better than the 3rd gen camaro? The IROC-Z won the best handling north american car award twice and after they started dropping in the corvette engine (350) they would out run the mustangs in the 1/4 too. which means it accelarated faster and handled better. (and looked alot better imo)
ORIGINAL: BrazoriaStang
For the last 15 years or so the mustang has been cheaper, lighter, less power and not as quick as the camaro...which will probably still be the case when the new camaro comes out. This is with the exception of the 5.0 fox bodies which were far superior until the LT1.
For the last 15 years or so the mustang has been cheaper, lighter, less power and not as quick as the camaro...which will probably still be the case when the new camaro comes out. This is with the exception of the 5.0 fox bodies which were far superior until the LT1.
Camaro didn't have anything on the fox drag racing wise until the LT1 came out.
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
Would seem better to compare the new Camaros to the Mustang instead of the new Vettes. No matter what, same model year, the vette will be faster than a Mustang GT. Just seems like the Mustang will need a blower/serious motor work to beat a Vette, of the same model year, so I don't see much use in trying to compare the two. [&:]
Would seem better to compare the new Camaros to the Mustang instead of the new Vettes. No matter what, same model year, the vette will be faster than a Mustang GT. Just seems like the Mustang will need a blower/serious motor work to beat a Vette, of the same model year, so I don't see much use in trying to compare the two. [&:]
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
What really remains to be seen is what kind of price tag GM puts on the camaro/firebird. Lets hope they don't pull another GTO and do something stupid, like only offering a V8 and pricing the base model well over 30K.
The mustang needs a good competitor to keep it sharp, without a direct competition there isn't much reason for ford to keep improving it with sales being so well off.
The mustang needs a good competitor to keep it sharp, without a direct competition there isn't much reason for ford to keep improving it with sales being so well off.
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Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
I'm pretty sure whatever Cobra comes out around 09 will edge out the camaro as far as performanceand probably cost at least a couple thousand more. It just depends on how much you want to spend. The mustang will costprobably cost considerably less than a camaro and be not quite as good as a performer.
If you could actually get an 07 Cobra for sticker that would be a great bang for the buck....
IMO
If you could actually get an 07 Cobra for sticker that would be a great bang for the buck....
IMO
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: QatarStang
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: GMhipo
I hadn't thought of that but now that you mention it, the C6 and the new Mustang were both introduced in 05 and since then GM has added a 6 speed auto, introduced a new more powerful engine and updated the interior again. Other then the packaging options what has Ford really done with then new Mustang?
ORIGINAL: QatarStang
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: GMhipo
I hadn't thought of that but now that you mention it, the C6 and the new Mustang were both introduced in 05 and since then GM has added a 6 speed auto, introduced a new more powerful engine and updated the interior again. Other then the packaging options what has Ford really done with then new Mustang?
ORIGINAL: QatarStang
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
They don't need too...honestly they could leave it as is for another 5 years and still sell the hell out of it. Why spend money on R&D when you don't need too?
ORIGINAL: GMhipo
I hadn't thought of that but now that you mention it, the C6 and the new Mustang were both introduced in 05 and since then GM has added a 6 speed auto, introduced a new more powerful engine and updated the interior again. Other then the packaging options what has Ford really done with then new Mustang?
ORIGINAL: QatarStang
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
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RE: LS1 to LS3 (Big Difference)???
ORIGINAL: Bigleman
Besides the Shelby andGT500, not much...
ORIGINAL: GMhipo
I hadn't thought of that but now that you mention it, the C6 and the new Mustang were both introduced in 05 and since then GM has added a 6 speed auto, introduced a new more powerful engine and updated the interior again. Other then the packaging options what has Ford really done with then new Mustang?
ORIGINAL: QatarStang
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.
Wow.......nobody compared the performance of the Vette and the Mustang. I just said that even though the C6 is in pretty much its own class based on price and power, Chevy still decided to give it some more go, whereas the mustang is in its own class on the lower end of the spectrum based on price/power, and Ford is waiting for other cars to be introduced to compete with the musang that will stomp it. If anything was compared it was GM and Ford. Nobody expects mustangs to beat vettes, so I dont know why you guys are all whining about so many people making comparisons that never happened.