just romped all over a third gen eclipse gts!
Oh ok, I got ya now. Yeah I agree with you Thestig, also kinda like comparing a 80's vette to a new one. They should have implemented that eboost they had in the concept eclipse. That would have given the car much more potential. Or even put a turbo 6 in it.
ORIGINAL: OneFastEclipse
A high 14 and a low 14 is hardly even a car length difference lol. A 1g can see low 14s on free mods. 2g's mid 14's.
A high 14 and a low 14 is hardly even a car length difference lol. A 1g can see low 14s on free mods. 2g's mid 14's.
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
a stock 4G eclispe owns a stock 1/2G (even a GSX would be screwed against a 4G GT)... 3Gs sucked out of the box, i will give you that......
ORIGINAL: nicknorth11
Eclipses fell off the map after the 2nd gens, at least for being considered fast cars or potentially fast cars. The evo stole our engine and it was all over.
Good kill though. I'd rather see a mustang beat a 3rd gen than the other way around.
Eclipses fell off the map after the 2nd gens, at least for being considered fast cars or potentially fast cars. The evo stole our engine and it was all over.
Good kill though. I'd rather see a mustang beat a 3rd gen than the other way around.
ORIGINAL: 1BAD3V
LOL, a 14.1 compared to a 14.9 is way way more than just 1 car length. More like 3 to 4 car lengths, atleast.
LOL, a 14.1 compared to a 14.9 is way way more than just 1 car length. More like 3 to 4 car lengths, atleast.
ORIGINAL: IWHINE
a tenth is a tenth. think how long it takes you to count to 1 and divide by ten can you see one car froma tenth not a chance
a tenth is a tenth. think how long it takes you to count to 1 and divide by ten can you see one car froma tenth not a chance
100 MPH / 60 minutes = 1.6 miles per minute.
1.6 / 60 = .027 miles per second
.027 miles * 5280 feet = 142.56 feet per second
142.56 * .1 = 14 feet...
So, average 14 second car trapping 100~ mph... figure almost 14 feet (call it 12 to make it safe) per tenth... and thats not including the faster car has been acclerating faster the entire time (not just trapping .1 faster at same MPH).
Although your math is correct, there is too many variables that would still make that inaccurate. Launch, gearing, hell two cars can have the same trap speed and also have totally different times. Not only that, if your trapping 100+mph in the 1/4th you should be well into the 13's and are not a 14 second car. If you are trapping 100+mph in the 1/4 and running 14's then you probably have a crappy 60ft time which would put you behind the other guy most of the race playing catch up. Not making the gap larger.
That would be closer to 14ft per second, not per 10th. You forgot to figure in that the other car is moving as well.
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
So, average 14 second car trapping 100~ mph... figure almost 14 feet (call it 12 to make it safe) per tenth... and thats not including the faster car has been acclerating faster the entire time (not just trapping .1 faster at same MPH).
So, average 14 second car trapping 100~ mph... figure almost 14 feet (call it 12 to make it safe) per tenth... and thats not including the faster car has been acclerating faster the entire time (not just trapping .1 faster at same MPH).
That would be closer to 14ft per second, not per 10th. You forgot to figure in that the other car is moving as well.
ORIGINAL: nicknorth11
I guess I was pretty vague here. I meant they fell off the map, as in they were no longer cars to buy if you were considering a car to make fast, as in 12's or better. Everyone knows eclipses (1g and 2g) can run 12's no problem, ESPECIALLY awd's. I don't consider anything in the 14's or slower fast, which would include every stock eclipse, so I'm not really concerned with which slow eclipse is "faster".
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
a stock 4G eclispe owns a stock 1/2G (even a GSX would be screwed against a 4G GT)... 3Gs sucked out of the box, i will give you that......
ORIGINAL: nicknorth11
Eclipses fell off the map after the 2nd gens, at least for being considered fast cars or potentially fast cars. The evo stole our engine and it was all over.
Good kill though. I'd rather see a mustang beat a 3rd gen than the other way around.
Eclipses fell off the map after the 2nd gens, at least for being considered fast cars or potentially fast cars. The evo stole our engine and it was all over.
Good kill though. I'd rather see a mustang beat a 3rd gen than the other way around.
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
Even 1/2 a second at 100+ MPH is alot...
100 MPH / 60 minutes = 1.6 miles per minute.
1.6 / 60 = .027 miles per second
.027 miles * 5280 feet = 142.56 feet per second
142.56 * .1 = 14 feet...
So, average 14 second car trapping 100~ mph... figure almost 14 feet (call it 12 to make it safe) per tenth... and thats not including the faster car has been acclerating faster the entire time (not just trapping .1 faster at same MPH).
ORIGINAL: IWHINE
a tenth is a tenth. think how long it takes you to count to 1 and divide by ten can you see one car froma tenth not a chance
a tenth is a tenth. think how long it takes you to count to 1 and divide by ten can you see one car froma tenth not a chance
100 MPH / 60 minutes = 1.6 miles per minute.
1.6 / 60 = .027 miles per second
.027 miles * 5280 feet = 142.56 feet per second
142.56 * .1 = 14 feet...
So, average 14 second car trapping 100~ mph... figure almost 14 feet (call it 12 to make it safe) per tenth... and thats not including the faster car has been acclerating faster the entire time (not just trapping .1 faster at same MPH).
1 Tenth of a second is about 1.5 car lengths. I've seen too many drag races. Notice on any drag race, 1 tenth, the slower car is a bit behind. So, your say, that if a C6 Vette raced a mustang GT (05+) it would only put a bit more then 1 car length, seeing as most C6's stock run mid-high 12's and most S197's run mid-high 13's. Does that make any sense, that a car that weighs a couple hundred lbs. less and has over 100 more HP and TQ? If you race them side by side on the street with equal drivers, the C6 will put 2-3 lengths on a stock S197.


