the ultimate sleeper
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the ultimate sleeper
seeing the owned by a sleeper thread it got me to thinking about a thread of the same type some time ago.
what's your idea of the perfect sleeper?
Sn95
528 Ford Specifications[ul][*]Bore: 4.42"[*]Stroke: 4.30"[*]Rotating Assy: SCAT cast crankshaft, H-beam rods, 36cc "D" shape dish Diamond pistons, King bearings, balanced[*]Heads: Blue Thunder 74cc, ported, +.100" Ford Racing valves, 3-angle valve job, 10* locks & retainers, 1.625" dia. springs, 230 lbs seat[*]Compression ratio: 9.8:1[*]Rockers: Miller 7075-T7 aircraft aluminum, 1.7 ratio[*]Camshaft: Billet steel roller, custom ground for this engine combo. Lobe = 0.4550" / .4170", LSA = 109* Dur@.050" = .266 / .278, Lift at valve = .757" / .709"[*]Roller Lifters: Morel[*]Block: D0VE-A with Boss 429 bulkheads, thermocleaned and mag checked, HFD Stage 1 oiling mods[*]Bearing clearances: mains = .0035"; rods = .0030"[*]Timing Chain: Ford Racing double-roller with billet gears and 9-position keyway[*]Carburetor: Holley 4500 Series Dominator, 1150 cfm[*]Distributor: MSD breakerless[*]Oil Pump: High Flow Dynamics Stage 1 prepped Melling M84DHV[*]Oil Pan: Armando's 10-qt jet boat pan and pickup[*]Intake: Edelbrock Victor 460 with Dominator carb flange, ported to Blue Thunder intake port size
737HP @ 6300 rpm and 672 lbs-ft of torque @ 4600 rpm, and 95% of peak torque was sustained all the way up to 5900 rpm.
*****this build is from 460ford
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what's your idea of the perfect sleeper?
Sn95
528 Ford Specifications[ul][*]Bore: 4.42"[*]Stroke: 4.30"[*]Rotating Assy: SCAT cast crankshaft, H-beam rods, 36cc "D" shape dish Diamond pistons, King bearings, balanced[*]Heads: Blue Thunder 74cc, ported, +.100" Ford Racing valves, 3-angle valve job, 10* locks & retainers, 1.625" dia. springs, 230 lbs seat[*]Compression ratio: 9.8:1[*]Rockers: Miller 7075-T7 aircraft aluminum, 1.7 ratio[*]Camshaft: Billet steel roller, custom ground for this engine combo. Lobe = 0.4550" / .4170", LSA = 109* Dur@.050" = .266 / .278, Lift at valve = .757" / .709"[*]Roller Lifters: Morel[*]Block: D0VE-A with Boss 429 bulkheads, thermocleaned and mag checked, HFD Stage 1 oiling mods[*]Bearing clearances: mains = .0035"; rods = .0030"[*]Timing Chain: Ford Racing double-roller with billet gears and 9-position keyway[*]Carburetor: Holley 4500 Series Dominator, 1150 cfm[*]Distributor: MSD breakerless[*]Oil Pump: High Flow Dynamics Stage 1 prepped Melling M84DHV[*]Oil Pan: Armando's 10-qt jet boat pan and pickup[*]Intake: Edelbrock Victor 460 with Dominator carb flange, ported to Blue Thunder intake port size
737HP @ 6300 rpm and 672 lbs-ft of torque @ 4600 rpm, and 95% of peak torque was sustained all the way up to 5900 rpm.
*****this build is from 460ford
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RE: the ultimate sleeper
I dont think of any mustang as a sleeper, mustangs are performance cars. Sleepers are cars that perform that arent supposed to or arent made to.
This is a sleeper...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGNn9lcduyk
This is a sleeper...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGNn9lcduyk
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RE: the ultimate sleeper
ORIGINAL: USMCrebel
seeing the owned by a sleeper thread it got me to thinking about a thread of the same type some time ago.
what's your idea of the perfect sleeper?
Sn95
528 Ford Specifications[ul][*]Bore: 4.42"[*]Stroke: 4.30"[*]Rotating Assy: SCAT cast crankshaft, H-beam rods, 36cc "D" shape dish Diamond pistons, King bearings, balanced[*]Heads: Blue Thunder 74cc, ported, +.100" Ford Racing valves, 3-angle valve job, 10* locks & retainers, 1.625" dia. springs, 230 lbs seat[*]Compression ratio: 9.8:1[*]Rockers: Miller 7075-T7 aircraft aluminum, 1.7 ratio[*]Camshaft: Billet steel roller, custom ground for this engine combo. Lobe = 0.4550" / .4170", LSA = 109* Dur@.050" = .266 / .278, Lift at valve = .757" / .709"[*]Roller Lifters: Morel[*]Block: D0VE-A with Boss 429 bulkheads, thermocleaned and mag checked, HFD Stage 1 oiling mods[*]Bearing clearances: mains = .0035"; rods = .0030"[*]Timing Chain: Ford Racing double-roller with billet gears and 9-position keyway[*]Carburetor: Holley 4500 Series Dominator, 1150 cfm[*]Distributor: MSD breakerless[*]Oil Pump: High Flow Dynamics Stage 1 prepped Melling M84DHV[*]Oil Pan: Armando's 10-qt jet boat pan and pickup[*]Intake: Edelbrock Victor 460 with Dominator carb flange, ported to Blue Thunder intake port size
737HP @ 6300 rpm and 672 lbs-ft of torque @ 4600 rpm, and 95% of peak torque was sustained all the way up to 5900 rpm.
*****this build is from 460ford [/ul]
seeing the owned by a sleeper thread it got me to thinking about a thread of the same type some time ago.
what's your idea of the perfect sleeper?
Sn95
528 Ford Specifications[ul][*]Bore: 4.42"[*]Stroke: 4.30"[*]Rotating Assy: SCAT cast crankshaft, H-beam rods, 36cc "D" shape dish Diamond pistons, King bearings, balanced[*]Heads: Blue Thunder 74cc, ported, +.100" Ford Racing valves, 3-angle valve job, 10* locks & retainers, 1.625" dia. springs, 230 lbs seat[*]Compression ratio: 9.8:1[*]Rockers: Miller 7075-T7 aircraft aluminum, 1.7 ratio[*]Camshaft: Billet steel roller, custom ground for this engine combo. Lobe = 0.4550" / .4170", LSA = 109* Dur@.050" = .266 / .278, Lift at valve = .757" / .709"[*]Roller Lifters: Morel[*]Block: D0VE-A with Boss 429 bulkheads, thermocleaned and mag checked, HFD Stage 1 oiling mods[*]Bearing clearances: mains = .0035"; rods = .0030"[*]Timing Chain: Ford Racing double-roller with billet gears and 9-position keyway[*]Carburetor: Holley 4500 Series Dominator, 1150 cfm[*]Distributor: MSD breakerless[*]Oil Pump: High Flow Dynamics Stage 1 prepped Melling M84DHV[*]Oil Pan: Armando's 10-qt jet boat pan and pickup[*]Intake: Edelbrock Victor 460 with Dominator carb flange, ported to Blue Thunder intake port size
737HP @ 6300 rpm and 672 lbs-ft of torque @ 4600 rpm, and 95% of peak torque was sustained all the way up to 5900 rpm.
*****this build is from 460ford [/ul]
There was a mid 80's Caddy around here that used to be a big street racer, the car looked pretty much stock but ran low 11's/high 10's. That's a sleeper.
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RE: the ultimate sleeper
it's a sleeper b/c i said it is, i could fit it all under an almost stock hood. here everything lopes, so it would just sound normal....on my way to school yesterday there was a z28 lopeing HARD as hell, but you couldnt hear it to well over the exhaust of the oldsoble on the other side of me.
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RE: the ultimate sleeper
or i guess you could call the one i am actually building right now a sleeper.
stock 302 rebuild kit (mostly), B303 cam, ported/polished Gt40's, Potred polished explorer intake, 60# injectors, A9L computer, built T-5 tranny, twin .60 turbos from turbo coupes. FMIC home made 3" thick. 255 lph fuel pump. etc etc
i dont know if im going to put it into a sn95/ fox body/ or a 240z
stock 302 rebuild kit (mostly), B303 cam, ported/polished Gt40's, Potred polished explorer intake, 60# injectors, A9L computer, built T-5 tranny, twin .60 turbos from turbo coupes. FMIC home made 3" thick. 255 lph fuel pump. etc etc
i dont know if im going to put it into a sn95/ fox body/ or a 240z
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From: Jersey
RE: the ultimate sleeper
Well I plan on getting the stock hood after the turbo. The car will be pretty quiet and look stock so most will assume it is stock, soi my car will be a sleeper of sorts. I think the Grand Nationals are factory sleepers, most kids today have no idea what they are until they get ripped apart by an 11 second sixxer.
As far as building one, I always wanted to get a ranger and swap in a 302 on the squeeze.
As far as building one, I always wanted to get a ranger and swap in a 302 on the squeeze.
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RE: the ultimate sleeper
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Typhoon/Cyclone..........or my old Dodge Spirit R/T that used to terrorize Stangs/Camaros
Typhoon/Cyclone..........or my old Dodge Spirit R/T that used to terrorize Stangs/Camaros
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From: Wooster OH
RE: the ultimate sleeper
Maybe not the perfect sleeper, but only because they have a cult following and are (in)famous on the roads.
This car ran 9.27 @ ~150 mph.
This ran 12.9 @ 108 on a low boost pass, and notice the curb feelers lol
This car ran 9.27 @ ~150 mph.
This ran 12.9 @ 108 on a low boost pass, and notice the curb feelers lol