Cobras Suck !
I haven't really driven any other stangs than mine andmy friend's '01 GT, but I can understand if the S197 GT's are better driving cars compared to the New Edge GT's. They have stiffer chassis and are a bit heavier, which I can see aiding day-to-day driving. The stiffness helps on the track too, but the weight doesn't really. It also has a solid axle (even the GT500) which gives a nod to the Terminators in the handling department.
This is all just talking out my a** though as I haven't driven an '05+ but from what I've read/seen. I can imagine they drive/handle as well or slightly better than the older GTs, but still not quite as well as the Terminators.
This is all just talking out my a** though as I haven't driven an '05+ but from what I've read/seen. I can imagine they drive/handle as well or slightly better than the older GTs, but still not quite as well as the Terminators.
I also hear a lot about launching issues with the IRS. All of my racing has been on 2 wheels, aside from the occasional red light run, so How hard is gonna be to launch? I have quite a bit of time on the drag strip...but with motorcycles.
its not hard too launch the cobra. just make sure that if u get into wheel hop, dont drive thru it, let off! u can do different things to upgrade ur irs, such as stronger axles, irs brace, solid bushings....
I used to have an 04 GT. I test drove an 05 GT. I own an 04 Cobra. Its as simple as that.
The 04 GT was a good learning car for me. First V8 I've owned and got alot of good seat time in it. Never took it too the track tho. After I got to reading how poorly the 2V responds to mods, I started to look at something different. The 4.6L 4V is just about the best you can get in the Ford world from the factory. Granted the 5.4L GT500's are great engines and respond just as well and better than the 4.6L does. But my point is, you can pretty much get all you can out of the 4.6L as it gets the job done.
That alone sold me on the cobra. I think the cobra is very comfortable to me. Alot will disagree with me on that, but for me... its a great fit. The shifter is in a good location for me and I just really like the way it feels. The 05+ stangs just felt too big for me. I just felt like I was in a GTO or something.
If your looking for performance, open tracking, autoX, and DD... the cobra wins hands down. I guess if you really like the styling tho, the 05+ stangs can make for good a good daily driver I guess. JMO tho.
The 04 GT was a good learning car for me. First V8 I've owned and got alot of good seat time in it. Never took it too the track tho. After I got to reading how poorly the 2V responds to mods, I started to look at something different. The 4.6L 4V is just about the best you can get in the Ford world from the factory. Granted the 5.4L GT500's are great engines and respond just as well and better than the 4.6L does. But my point is, you can pretty much get all you can out of the 4.6L as it gets the job done.
That alone sold me on the cobra. I think the cobra is very comfortable to me. Alot will disagree with me on that, but for me... its a great fit. The shifter is in a good location for me and I just really like the way it feels. The 05+ stangs just felt too big for me. I just felt like I was in a GTO or something.
If your looking for performance, open tracking, autoX, and DD... the cobra wins hands down. I guess if you really like the styling tho, the 05+ stangs can make for good a good daily driver I guess. JMO tho.
I am definatly leaning toward the Terminator.I am not worried so much about the small creature comforts of the S197, thats what the wifes car is for right? And I'm already driving a slow *** mustang, drives me crazy. Sounding fast just makes it worse. I'm pretty confident that a future test drive will solidify my thoughts and your feedback. Not to mention the 6-speed you can't get w/ any other stang. I do like the styling of the S197 w/ certain body kits. But I love the cobra's body as is. I need some reassurance to buy what will be a will be 4-5 y/o car when I get back. Think it will hold up in the long run? Oh, and thanks for all the great feedback.
Pick up a cobra, power potential is much greater with stock internals, you would have to change your internals in the S197 if your looking for 475+hp. I would go for the Cobra, not just power wise, but not as many people have them, I see S197s every where I turn now, its a great looking car and an amazing platform to build on, but not too many people have the Cobras...
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The 03/04 with the IRS still handles and rides better.
The S197 is QUITE a bit more comfortable. However, speaking from a base standpoint. The 03/04 has all the potential in the world with it's setup from the factory. Whereas the S197 has limitations on it's motor & transmission. It's not a huge deal, but it's quite an expensive investment..
The difference from the 04 GT to a Terminator is like this... It'll be like going from riding a BMX bicycle to getting in your 04 GT. You'll giggle like a little girl and then you might feel a little embarassed you ever tried making your GT quicker.
The 03/04 with the IRS still handles and rides better.
The S197 is QUITE a bit more comfortable. However, speaking from a base standpoint. The 03/04 has all the potential in the world with it's setup from the factory. Whereas the S197 has limitations on it's motor & transmission. It's not a huge deal, but it's quite an expensive investment..
The difference from the 04 GT to a Terminator is like this... It'll be like going from riding a BMX bicycle to getting in your 04 GT. You'll giggle like a little girl and then you might feel a little embarassed you ever tried making your GT quicker.
Let me jus say this first, i have a certain amount of respect for the 03/04 Cobras, they are without a doubt great cars, my bro owns one so i know first hand.
I know imma get bashed, but i cant understand this logic...i'll explain....and this is the main reason why i stillfind Terminators are overratted.
Now i jus looked up Cobras an GTs retail:
Cobra 03/04 $28,000
GT 03 $17,000
I was financed for 20,000 for mine an my bro 35,000 (jus rounding numbers here)...theres a $11-15K difference.
So people here arepretty muchsaying that modding a GT is a joke compared to a stock Cobra...that looking at a $28k overall buget, spending$11-15k on a GT with $11-15k to spare in modding vs. a stock Termi is sickining? I would think that $11-15k in a GTfrom engine to sus and tires even wouldnt pretty much crush anything on the street(considering it was spended wisely)?
I know i didnt use exact wording from people in typin this, but im just looking at the overall picture and this is to my understanding from what isee. Maybe someone can set in a missing factor that i missed..? Not lookin for a kick in the nuts, just someone to set me strait (maybe i'll get both? [8D]).
the fastest cars on the street have the most money in them.......when you start modding its all about how much are you willing to spend. such as a stroker 4.6->5.1L twin turbo gt will stomp the living **** out of a cobra, but you looking at 11-12k for that. then on the flip side a stock cobra is better than a stock GT. Suprise it costs more. modding is about how much do you want to spend and where do you want to go with it.


