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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Good argument. All valid points. All solved by running a dry shot. Solenoids can fail all day long and you'll never hurt the engine. Only wet or direct port kits with fuel solenoids run the risk of engine damage. Also, on the pro side of N20...solenoid failure rate is less than 5% per 100,000...and that's all dependent on usage as well.

(Colorful statistic taken from tech dept. of a reputable N20 manufacture.)
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fobra
+1 you can read about how safe nitrous is all day long... go to any shop or any drag strip and you'll learn otherwise. Can it be used safely? Yes of course... is it wise for a stock motor that you cant afford to blow up? No.

Nitrous and superchargers do exactly the same thing. Nitrous just does it chemically instead of mechanically. So with your logic, it's just as dangerous to run a supercharger. Ever heard of a bypass valve failure? Replacing a noid is much cheaper than replacing a head unit.

Everyone also says turbos are the way to go in this guys case...turbo's are the least forgiving. One slip of the boost controller, or "just one more pound of boost" moments, and that FAAARRRR more destructive than ANY 100 dry shot.

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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin04
Nitrous and superchargers do exactly the same thing. Nitrous just does it chemically instead of mechanically. So with your logic, it's just as dangerous to run a supercharger. Ever heard of a bypass valve failure? Replacing a noid is much cheaper than replacing a head unit.

Everyone also says turbos are the way to go in this guys case...turbo's are the least forgiving. One slip of the boost controller, or "just one more pound of boost" moments, and that FAAARRRR more destructive than ANY 100 dry shot.
N20 and boost are not the same thing at all... suggesting that makes me not want to waste my time and debate.

Of course a supercharger is not safe, neither is a turbo... but they are 1000x more reliable then nitrous. Any time you push the limits your risk damage... thats why its not worth it to do stupid things like "see how much you can get out of 93"..."how much power my stock rotating assembly will hold" ...for what purpose?
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fobra
N20 and boost are not the same thing at all... suggesting that makes me not want to waste my time and debate.

Of course a supercharger is not safe, neither is a turbo... but they are 1000x more reliable then nitrous.
I've run all three in various combos...for years. Having been there and done that, I can tell you that turbos are nowhere near as safe as a small shot of spray. The fact that you would even choose to debate that makes me wonder where you're getting your facts from. How many turbo mustangs have you daily driven?

I also wonder how you think boost and nitrous not the same? They are both means to inject more air...or oxygen to be specific. I'm anxious to hear your explanation.

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thats why its not worth it to do stupid things like "see how much you can get out of 93"..."how much power my stock rotating assembly will hold" ...for what purpose?
You're right...it's stupid IF you don't know what you're doing. But finding the limits of what we can and cant do on pump gas/factory parts is a step that somebody needs to do so everyone can learn what those limits are. Thankfully, since I've been in the mustang world for over a decade and learned what those limits are by both finding them myself (the hard way sometimes) and being around the few people that do these "stupid" experiments, I can use that experience to help the less informed people make the correct decisions on where to spend their hard earned money. Having succesfully run N20 on EVERY mustang I've owned without an engine or any other catastophic failure leads me to feel comfortable with the reliability aspect of it. Having a STOCK motor with 800 rwhp with TT's and N20 on PUMP GAS as a daily driver is a territory that most enthusiasts/tuners say can't be done...or you're on borrowed time...or it's a ticking time bomb...blah blah blah... I live this sh*t everyday. This is what I do now and have done for 12 years. Every day and every mile just makes the wannabes hate more. And I go to bed smiling because I know I had the ***** to put up the money and time to try and do what others were too chicken sh*t to attempt. That's why my "opinions" are based on trial and error and facts, not just, I heard from a guy or I saw this one guy. But right now, based on what you've written, it sounds like you have no real data or facts to back up your opinion.

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. I'm just trying to give the OP factual experience, and the best "bang for the buck" for his limited budget. For the 6-7 nitrous kits you can buy in lieu of one supercharger or turbo kit, it fits his budget better than anything else. And even in the worse case scenario of an engine failure, he still would have more $$$ to replace a motor than if he blew his budget on a $5K blower.

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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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LOL would you like a tissue?


I was going to type it all out, but the argument is dumb and been said soo many times on this forum that there is no point.
Old Jan 28, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the rest of this thread, lol:

Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin04
Good argument. All valid points. All solved by running a dry shot. Solenoids can fail all day long and you'll never hurt the engine. Only wet or direct port kits with fuel solenoids run the risk of engine damage. Also, on the pro side of N20...solenoid failure rate is less than 5% per 100,000...and that's all dependent on usage as well.

(Colorful statistic taken from tech dept. of a reputable N20 manufacture.)
To be fair, I didn't see this post, this one I can agree with. A smaller dry shot can be a good idea w/ boost. I thought you were comparing a straight up n20 4.6 vs. a boosted 4.6
Old Jan 30, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mfj
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the rest of this thread, lol:

Lmao!!
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