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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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Heres an idea. Take it from someone on the boards who ACTUALLY HAS FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE ON A TRACK with a near stock auto: D2D does NOT improve your ET. Its just the good 'ole *** dyno. Like when you drive an auto as a DD/weekend killer, and then ride in a slower manual, even though it FEELS faster, it isnt. Thats all D2D is. There is only one time when manually shifting your stock auto makes a difference, and thats when your're cruising along and need to downshift on the fly because of some rice burner trying a fly-by.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Heres an idea. Take it from someone on the boards who ACTUALLY HAS FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE ON A TRACK with a near stock auto: D2D does NOT improve your ET. Its just the good 'ole *** dyno. Like when you drive an auto as a DD/weekend killer, and then ride in a slower manual, even though it FEELS faster, it isnt. Thats all D2D is. There is only one time when manually shifting your stock auto makes a difference, and thats when your're cruising along and need to downshift on the fly because of some rice burner trying a fly-by.
funny, 1-2 shift in drive, the car shifts at redline
1-2-D, car shifts in to second you can hear a sliding sound (rear tire cutting loose)
D-2-D, there is a loud bark from the rear end of the car (im stock)

actually so i guess you could be right, breaking traction causes a lower e.t
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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that's pretty sweet. even though I wrote that post totally wrong, I still got the answers I wanted. gracias, MFers.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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When you go from 1-2-d do you need to take your foot off of the gas when shifting?


My dad neglects this info.....
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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You don't have to but sometimes if you don't let up off of the gas a little bit it won't shift right when you want it to.
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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When you go from 1-2-d do you need to take your foot off of the gas when shifting?


My dad neglects this info.....
no, just hold it to the floor
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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When you go from 1-2-d do you need to take your foot off of the gas when shifting?


My dad neglects this info.....
You don't.

Either way when you 1-2-d you will experience a little less than 2 seconds between when you tell it to shift and it actually shifts.
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Heres an idea. Take it from someone on the boards who ACTUALLY HAS FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE ON A TRACK with a near stock auto: D2D does NOT improve your ET. Its just the good 'ole *** dyno. Like when you drive an auto as a DD/weekend killer, and then ride in a slower manual, even though it FEELS faster, it isnt. Thats all D2D is. There is only one time when manually shifting your stock auto makes a difference, and thats when your're cruising along and need to downshift on the fly because of some rice burner trying a fly-by.
sorry you are full of crap. i have been doing the D-2-D shift since you were probably still hangin on your mommy's tit.

the D-2-D will cut almost .10 off of a 1/4 time over just letting the tranny shift itself or the 1-2-D shift.

i used to do this with old Fox bodies back in 90. it works. you have to master the timing of it though or it doesn't do much at all.

done correctly the 1-2 shift will take less than 1/4 second and will give a hard shift and most likely a loud bark from the tires

i probably have more track time in my little finger than you have in your whole body
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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When you go from 1-2-d do you need to take your foot off of the gas when shifting?


My dad neglects this info.....
You don't.

Either way when you 1-2-d you will experience a little less than 2 seconds between when you tell it to shift and it actually shifts.
the D-2-D shift is about 1/4 of a second when timed right. even 1.5 seconds to shift is stock shift speed . i will say it again the 1-2-3 manual shift does nothing. it is not a program for the 4R70W in the ECU. the D-2 is

end of discussion.

if you don't believe me ask Jerry from ford chip. he is the guy that developed the Jerry mod ( J-mod) for the 4R70W and was one of the engineers at ford that developed the 4R70W
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Heres an idea. Take it from someone on the boards who ACTUALLY HAS FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE ON A TRACK with a near stock auto: D2D does NOT improve your ET. Its just the good 'ole *** dyno. Like when you drive an auto as a DD/weekend killer, and then ride in a slower manual, even though it FEELS faster, it isnt. Thats all D2D is. There is only one time when manually shifting your stock auto makes a difference, and thats when your're cruising along and need to downshift on the fly because of some rice burner trying a fly-by.
sorry you are full of crap. i have been doing the D-2-D shift since you were probably still hangin on your mommy's tit.

the D-2-D will cut almost .10 off of a 1/4 time over just letting the tranny shift itself or the 1-2-D shift.

i used to do this with old Fox bodies back in 90. it works. you have to master the timing of it though or it doesn't do much at all.

done correctly the 1-2 shift will take less than 1/4 second and will give a hard shift and most likely a loud bark from the tires

i probably have more track time in my little finger than you have in your whole body

What does the QM times you got out of a 5.0L mustang have to do with the QM times of a split port V6? In the 7 months of me going to the track, i have tried the D2D pattern 70% of the time during the test and tune runs. It has never improved my times. It could be me. But that doesnt make ME full of crap. Especially when the evidence you throw at me is your experiences in a C4 equipped 5.0 fox.



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