V6 (1994-2004) Mustangs Technical discussions on the 3.8L and 3.9L V6 torque monsters

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Old May 5, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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and you can run 11PSI on the stock v6 internals but you need an aftercooler.

and just to open a can-of-worms the truth is the Essex v6 has a stronger block than the Modular v8.
Old May 6, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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gotta love that..nothin like ford puttin POS blocks in the 8's
Old May 6, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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11psi is perfectly fine on stock 3.8 WITH PROPER TUNE !!

rwhp with the 11psi tuner kit from procharger with 42lb injectors,MAF,SCT chip from www.velocitymustangperformance.com along with duals and MAC H-pipe can be in the 290 rwhp range

with ported heads,1.8adj rollers,215/230 RPM cam,Ported intakes,lighter 9.5:1 ross pistons and I beam rods the 3.8 can be close to 350RWHP @11psi

Justin Starkey from velocity mustang is running 14-17lbs with a turbo kit on a stock internal 3.8. he is at 450rwhp @17psi and 100 octane the key is a proper tune

with forged H-beams,forged pistons,main and head studs and nitrided crank the 3.8 can handle 25psi no problem
Old May 6, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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what are you putting down to the ground, Cobra
Old May 6, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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what are you putting down to the ground, Cobra
nothing right now

i'm still trying to save enough money to put my new combo together

should be around 400rwhp @20psi from the procharger.

i was at 278rwhp on a mostly stock singleport with the 11psi kit when i lost compression in #6

completely stock with the 11psi charger i was at 226rwhp and 267ftlbs
Old May 7, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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he wont touch 11psi specially with stock compression and internals. also he would need to get an MSD box or engine managment system to have the spark retard he needs to accomplish good power numbers. id say more like 8 psi. i have no clue what the stock compression is on the 3.8L v6's still 350hp is aiming high.

Wow, this is old school engine management. A MSD box is no longer needed on distributorless engines. All the spark retard you'll need can be done with a SCT tuner.
Old May 7, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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Well, I had to laugh at this one guys.

This kid that is a poser around my town has a fake roush. He is buyin a S/C kit for it and has put about 8000 into all of it including intake, tires, rims, etc.

So I have some questions for you v6 guys:

1) he thinks he will run 11 psi (he has stock internals)
2) now at 11 psi he estimates 350 hp at the wheels..this right?

i have some comments too...he cnat run 11 without forging the internals right? the v6 engine cant be stronger than the gt's.
so say, he ran a safer 9 psi...what would that put his power output to? (ati procharger with a TB, side exhaust, and a few other MINOR things).

thanks guys! just want to get my facts straight before I start making fun of him because he told me he'll be runnin mid 11's all day...LMAO
actually if he was to do a cam swap with that S/C he would easily get over 300rwhp, hell with just a cam alone he would be way over 200rwhp. I'm not sure if he'll be running mid 11's though. That would require him to remove a decent amount of weight from his car. Like the the trunk and his rear seats at a minimum. If he did that i would say high 12's low 13's for sure then. With just a S/C, it's only gonna be high 13's for him. Maybe mid 13's if he's lucky.
Old May 7, 2005 | 05:31 AM
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11's in the 1/4 is going to need fully ported heads,intakes, 11psi procharger dialed in for 18-20 psi 42's-60's with MAF and chip along with a cam with about 240dur @.050" lift and .560" valve lift,MAC offroad H with full 2.5"duals with at least 3.73's with an auburn LSD and TA perf girdle.

also forged 9.5:1 ross pistons eagle I's or H's with a top and bottom stud kit with main girdle and posibly o-ring heads

i'm shootin for high 12's with my new combo which is milder than what i just listed
Old May 7, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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11's in the 1/4 is going to need fully ported heads,intakes, 11psi procharger dialed in for 18-20 psi 42's-60's with MAF and chip along with a cam with about 240dur @.050" lift and .560" valve lift,MAC offroad H with full 2.5"duals with at least 3.73's with an auburn LSD and TA perf girdle.

also forged 9.5:1 ross pistons eagle I's or H's with a top and bottom stud kit with main girdle and posibly o-ring heads

i'm shootin for high 12's with my new combo which is milder than what i just listed
That cam is WAY too big, i'll be surprised if you can get that thing to idle correctly. I'm assuming this guy has a 99+ mustang, so therefore I would also assume he's got split port intakes. This does not require a huge cam like the one mentioned. One of my new 206 cams, would be more than enough for this guy and it would idle extremely well and with this mod alone could top him to about 210rwhp on a stock 99+.
Old May 7, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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11 psi will only add like 80-120 hp?

why can the v6's handle more than the gt's?
How much the pressure will add depends on A LOT of things. That is my best guess from what I know about the mustangs v6.

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he wont touch 11psi specially with stock compression and internals. also he would need to get an MSD box or engine managment system to have the spark retard he needs to accomplish good power numbers. id say more like 8 psi. i have no clue what the stock compression is on the 3.8L v6's still 350hp is aiming high.
Why need an msd or engine management system for spark retard? I've never used either on any cars I made a kit for. What they did afterwards with their vehicle was up to them, I never added one to my cars anytime.

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and you can run 11PSI on the stock v6 internals but you need an aftercooler.

and just to open a can-of-worms the truth is the Essex v6 has a stronger block than the Modular v8.
What about an intercooler instead of aftercooler [:-]...[8D] I'm just not a big fan of the aftercoolers. They have their place though.



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