V6 (1994-2004) Mustangs Technical discussions on the 3.8L and 3.9L V6 torque monsters

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Yeah they were the bump stops. Wow this is like night and day. The ride quality is 200% better. For the money this is one of the best investments I've made. I haven't had a chance to push it since there is a Tornado Warning in Atlanta right now (not the best weather to tackle decreasing radius turns in) but I am definitely looking forward to a real test drive. I want to take it to Road Atlanta especially after a new gear and locker.
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bgnn32
Shocks won't effect alignment, but struts will.
Please explain to me how a part that has no affect on ride height, caster, or camber, and is merely present to aid in dampening the bound and rebound of a spring going to affect alignment.
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Uh oh, here we go again.
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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In the particular case of the Mustang, the camber/alignment is not handled by the Strut to Knuckle bolts, as it uses a "modified" MacPherson strut system, where the spring is not mounted on the strut itself, and the tie rod ends and adjusting bolts on the lower control arms are used to set the alignment. On most other Macpherson equipped cars, the camber is adjusted by one or both of the Strut to Knuckle bolts, so when the strut is removed and/or replaced from the knuckle, the camber is affected. bgnn32 probably just made a general assumption based on experience with other vehicles, maybe he hasn't changed struts on a Mustang/Fairmont based vehicle platform before.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Archion
In the particular case of the Mustang, the camber/alignment is not handled by the Strut to Knuckle bolts, as it uses a "modified" MacPherson strut system, where the spring is not mounted on the strut itself, and the tie rod ends and adjusting bolts on the lower control arms are used to set the alignment. On most other Macpherson equipped cars, the camber is adjusted by one or both of the Strut to Knuckle bolts, so when the strut is removed and/or replaced from the knuckle, the camber is affected. bgnn32 probably just made a general assumption based on experience with other vehicles, maybe he hasn't changed struts on a Mustang/Fairmont based vehicle platform before.

just my 2c
Yes the tie rod end affect toe-in and toe-out, but your camber and caster adjustments come from the caster camber plates where the upper strut mount is located. Also on many vehicles, the camber adjustments may be made at both the upper control mounts, via excentric bolts, and on the lower control arm. Many applications are also adjustable at the strut/spindle mount, including a kit currently available for mustangs, but I wouldn't trust it, and neither will any shop I've mentioned it to.

ON a mustang, it is possible to adjust caster and camber with lower control arms, but it involves tubular control arm with the adjustability built in, nothing factory. The only other thing available for a stock lower control arm are the Steeda X2 balljoints, but those merely correct steering geometry.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Archion
In the particular case of the Mustang, the camber/alignment is not handled by the Strut to Knuckle bolts, as it uses a "modified" MacPherson strut system, where the spring is not mounted on the strut itself, and the tie rod ends and adjusting bolts on the lower control arms are used to set the alignment. On most other Macpherson equipped cars, the camber is adjusted by one or both of the Strut to Knuckle bolts, so when the strut is removed and/or replaced from the knuckle, the camber is affected. bgnn32 probably just made a general assumption based on experience with other vehicles, maybe he hasn't changed struts on a Mustang/Fairmont based vehicle platform before.

just my 2c

You are right, my car has a completely different setup than stock, and I forgot the stang has a modified MacPherson.
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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There I go with my drunken late night proof reading again, that was a "DOH" moment if I ever had one... Thanks for the correction.
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anytime lol
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