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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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So I got my new inner/outer tie rods and ball joinbt this week and am looking forward to doing the work myself - any tricks I should know about? Also, anyone have a wright up on how to replace the ball joints? My stupid Haynes manual just stts (and I quote) "1.Remove the lower control arm, 2. Have the old ball joint pressed out of the arm and a new balljoint pressed in by an automotive machine shop, 3. Install the lower control arm"....WTF?!?!?!?! I know there is a tool out there to press in/out ball joints. Is it hard to use?

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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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The easiest way to remove the outer tie rod from the spindle is to use a separator fork. You just hammer it in between the two until the tie rod pops free. This destroys the boot on the old one but if you're replacing it then that isn't an issue.
If you need to reuse the outer tie rod, or don't want to buy a new tool then the trick is to strike the spindle square on its side where the tie rod passes through spindle. A small 2lb sledge works great, a few hard shots and it will pop free. Hit it with all your might, it won't break, half hearted shots won't do it. Be sure to remove the castle nut first.
Before removing the old tire rods count the number of threads showing, marking with tape helps as well. When reinstalling put the new ones on with the same number of threads showing. This will set your alignment close to what to it was before and leave it drivable so you can get to the alignment shop.
Just torque down the new outer tie rod to reset it on installation, no press used there.
The inner just spins off once the locking bolt is loosened.
If threads are rusty spray them down with penatrating oil first.
Many auto parts stores rent tools. The fork is cheap but the ball joint press tool is more of an investment.

Harbor freight has cheap tools, not the greatest quality though.
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For the ball joints I don't think they are bolted in so your going to have to drill out the rivets before they can be pressed out. I don't recall how much room you have to work but I think you can do it on the car.
The press tool should be available for rental.
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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The ball joints are pressed in, not rivited, you just need a tool like the one shown above to press it out.
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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Searching You-Tube will help too. There are a ton of good video's on this subject. The removal/install procedure is very similar between makes/models. You can rent the ball joint press and inner tie rod tool at most auto-parts stores. Here are a few good videos:

Outer tie rod:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o41XW9MxDf0
Inner tie rod:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MJOtr-vj6M
Pressing out a ball joint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVluVuiFnlw
Pressing in a ball joint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-gC...eature=channel

You might also want to throw out the Haynes manual and buy the Factory Service Manual for your year/model car. Will pay for itself doing this job alone. Just sayin'...

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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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Chiltons manuals FTW... Ball joints arent hard if you have the right tools... just dont damage the control arm because your gonna end up payin a lot more money if you do
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^ I dont know about your manual but all mine says for ball joints is to "take to auto shop, have shop press out old, press in new", not much help there. But thanks for the videos.

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Originally Posted by Matt's 95 Stang
^ I dont know about your manual but all mine says for ball joints is to "take to auto shop, have shop press out old, press in new", not much help there. But thanks for the videos.
The factory service manual for my girly's ride has an entire section on removal and installation of the lower ball joints. Including what tools to use etc and nice diagrams too. Chiltons & Haynes manuals are the equivalent to CliffsNotes to the Factory Service Manual. There just aint no substitute for the real thing.
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Is the service manual about 2000 pages, gray, and says the year of the car on the front? If so I have one for mine. I will have to look thru it.

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Originally Posted by Matt's 95 Stang
Is the service manual about 2000 pages, gray, and says the year of the car on the front? If so I have one for mine. I will have to look thru it.
I don't know about your year, but '98's service manual is about 3 inches thick and green. Says "1998 Ford Mustang Service Manual" on the front and binding.
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