BBK shorty headers
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From: Sacramento, CA
You don't need LT's to make power, I can promise you guys that.
The BBK shorties are a quality substitute to the stock manifolds that crack and break. Most of the fast v6's don't use LT's anyways. IMO LT's are a waste unless you only plan on doing bolt-ons like everyone else.
The BBK shorties are a quality substitute to the stock manifolds that crack and break. Most of the fast v6's don't use LT's anyways. IMO LT's are a waste unless you only plan on doing bolt-ons like everyone else.
Dyno.
http://www.v6power.net/dyno/
Time Slip
http://www.v6power.net/portal/timeslips/mustang.php
Buncha turbo setups high on that list.
Its been said before, each performance part is part of a puzzle. Each one helps.
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Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,586
You don't need LT's to make power, I can promise you guys that.
The BBK shorties are a quality substitute to the stock manifolds that crack and break. Most of the fast v6's don't use LT's anyways. IMO LT's are a waste unless you only plan on doing bolt-ons like everyone else.
The BBK shorties are a quality substitute to the stock manifolds that crack and break. Most of the fast v6's don't use LT's anyways. IMO LT's are a waste unless you only plan on doing bolt-ons like everyone else.
because most of them are turbo!
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Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Delaware
My car isn't turbo, and based on the "official dyno list" that I guess was supposed to impress me.. My stock bottom end, bolt on & nitrous car is right there with the guys running d-1's with 4.2 bottom ends built to the moon and back.
I'm not new to the game bud, I've had the LT's before, and I was not impressed. The car ran no better. The only gain you will get with LT's is if the car has heads and boost. The exhaust on the 3.8's is not a restriction, nor do the engines flow enough air to need LT's.
So whats you're stand in this?
I'm not new to the game bud, I've had the LT's before, and I was not impressed. The car ran no better. The only gain you will get with LT's is if the car has heads and boost. The exhaust on the 3.8's is not a restriction, nor do the engines flow enough air to need LT's.
So whats you're stand in this?
Buyer Beware
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,586
My car isn't turbo, and based on the "official dyno list" that I guess was supposed to impress me.. My stock bottom end, bolt on & nitrous car is right there with the guys running d-1's with 4.2 bottom ends built to the moon and back.
I'm not new to the game bud, I've had the LT's before, and I was not impressed. The car ran no better. The only gain you will get with LT's is if the car has heads and boost. The exhaust on the 3.8's is not a restriction, nor do the engines flow enough air to need LT's.
So whats you're stand in this?
I'm not new to the game bud, I've had the LT's before, and I was not impressed. The car ran no better. The only gain you will get with LT's is if the car has heads and boost. The exhaust on the 3.8's is not a restriction, nor do the engines flow enough air to need LT's.
So whats you're stand in this?
Curious 12.47 on what tire/wheel setup?
Last edited by ESG-642T; Feb 21, 2011 at 11:54 PM.
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Posts: 6,524
From: Sacramento, CA
Long tubes help to produce more power at all levels through the power curve, over stock 99+ they are a big improvement.
It may not be the best bang for your buck but its a puzzle piece that helps overall.
The 00' That I modified wasnt built either but really improved overall with the 96' stockers I put on, a modified 94/95 GT BBK O/R Xpipe and dumped Borla's. Beyond bolt ons and a tune, I had many many many hours in my garage invested in my heads and intakes.
I was making enough at that point to really be able to feel a large difference by just putting the stock 3 to 1's on and a 2.5" X-pipe. That means my MILD build needed more air out as I was getting more in.
I have been at this for a while too, headers help especially when things start to breath more.
I wrote a good 94-98 VS 99-04 header guide a while back that has some good tech data in the diff's between the two stock headers/manifolds. Just search for it.
LT's are great for those that dont want to spend money twice and plan to upgrade more as they go along.
Headers arent usually the only mod that someone chooses to do once they get that involved and costly. If he is at headers he will probably go a lot deeper later.
It may not be the best bang for your buck but its a puzzle piece that helps overall.
The 00' That I modified wasnt built either but really improved overall with the 96' stockers I put on, a modified 94/95 GT BBK O/R Xpipe and dumped Borla's. Beyond bolt ons and a tune, I had many many many hours in my garage invested in my heads and intakes.
I was making enough at that point to really be able to feel a large difference by just putting the stock 3 to 1's on and a 2.5" X-pipe. That means my MILD build needed more air out as I was getting more in.
I have been at this for a while too, headers help especially when things start to breath more.
I wrote a good 94-98 VS 99-04 header guide a while back that has some good tech data in the diff's between the two stock headers/manifolds. Just search for it.
LT's are great for those that dont want to spend money twice and plan to upgrade more as they go along.
Headers arent usually the only mod that someone chooses to do once they get that involved and costly. If he is at headers he will probably go a lot deeper later.
Last edited by NeoTokyo; Feb 22, 2011 at 03:08 AM.
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From: Sacramento, CA
btw, my wife just bought a new set of Ceramic coated BBK LT's and x-pipe for her 01' Cobra swap, she is building a parts pile for an eaton swap too.
You cant tell me that those headers dont make more power than the stock manifolds, especially when her eaton swap is complete.
You cant tell me that those headers dont make more power than the stock manifolds, especially when her eaton swap is complete.
