I forgot, Rygen while ur here, Do u still have the t-lok and is it still working fine or have u gone true-trac and how many miles did u/do u have on the t-lok? Thanx for the suspension help, I was thinking of doing the BMR front sway delete/radiator support replacement anyway. With the turbo I should be pushin 330hp+ and with my 4.10's,aluminum driveshaft,t-lok, subframes, good tires,and rear control arms I should easily take all S197 bolt-on GT's. That's the best feeling, no more losing to N/A8 cylinder cars.And if I took this car withall these mods to the track and a little weight removal, Icould easily expect12's and if I use Drag Radial's, possibly11's if I hook and launch right. Correct? It's actually more like 3 more cylinder's at 8.6psi because14psi=ur car's hp and since we have 6 cylinder's half(7psi) would be 3. Soafter ur turbo's u can say u have a 6 cylinder car with the power of a 9 cylinder car/ or more power than a 9 cylinder car.[sm=happy046.gif]Can't Wait till February![sm=insomnia.gif]

 

One thing, the Vortech is not a turbo. You kept on calling it a turbo in one of your posts lol

 

I switched to an 8.8 rear end, with a LPW girdle and CHE axle brace with the built block. I was running the tlok, LPW girdle and 3.73's when I was running on the stock block, ET's were 12.4. Buckman got my 7.5 rearend after that, he ran 11.00's with it fine as well. I got 12's with 8lbs of boost on the turbo. You won't see 12's with 8lbs of boost on the other kits except the Forced4 turbo. But you can run 13's at those boost levels with the SC's.

 

good luck finding a 9 cylinder to race... lol...

 

So, u don't think 12's would be possible with good tires(non-DR), 4.10's,t-lok, aluminum ds,rear control arms, subframes, high-flow muffler, dyno tune, and 50-100lbs+ in weightreduction. I think ur smokin something. B/c with that set-up I'll have 30hp more than GT's, more than a 100lb's less weight,higher gears, better weight transfer, smoother drivetrain, and better tires while good driver's in stock GT's run 13.5's. U still think I can't hit 12's? If u do, ur nuts or just acting like alpha male 4.0 cause u r alpha male 4.0(500+hp beast) and are scared of driver's getting closer to u. I think that's it cause u said it urself, u got 12's with 8lbs of boost.I did a lot bolt-on and suspension wise so far so why not? I am really confused someone else give me an opinion after reading this info and tell me if I could hit 12's or am I crazy. Thanks ahead of time!

 

Alpha male, are you nuts? Where did that come from. As for people getting closer to me, ask anyone who has raced with me and ask them how passionate I am about helping others get better ET's. I was extreemly jazzed when buckman went 11.00 and knew his car could run a 10. His MPH proved it and we had many talks about how to get it there. Same goes for alot of others on these sites. Your comment was uncalled for.

Good drivers in stock GT's run 13.5's with a manual, and its easier said than done.

At 8psi, you will need a turbo to run 12's, that is what I was saying. With the Centris, its different. Its about the power band and how the car makes power, down low and in the 60ft. You would really have to lighten the car up more. With a centri, you are talking needing some really wide DR's, maybe a taller gear than 4.10s and a really aggressive launch, like 5000 rpm. Paul has done it, but hes also a professional driver and on a track built car.

General rule is every 70-100lbs is good for 1/10th off your ET.

 

wtf???
Anyone that knows Todd knows that he is very helpful and certainly doesn't take issue with people pushing close to his times. Todd and I bounced all season knocking each other off the #1 spot, and each time we helped each other pushing toward even better ET's.
This whole post was completely uncalled for, very brash and immature.
He was just trying to help and state his opinions.
After reading through this thread I have no idea if you plan on going non-intercooled Vortech (SUPERCHARGER) or a turbo unit???
If non-intercooled Vortech @ 8lbs of boost, then no you will not run 12's. Turbo will get you there, but you may need drag radials to get it.
Another thing, with the power you are putting down subframe connectors are simple not needed. These S197's are not Fox bodies.

 

Ok, Alpha Male was a joke that u didn't take as a joke. Sorry if I offended u there.And 13.5's for GT's aren't hard, especially for auto's with a cheapbolt-on. As far as the turbo, 8psi is 8psi. The powerband is all based on the dyno tune and I no vortech's make max power at 6k rpm but a turbo's boost level's are different throughout the powerband anyway. I already said a 100lbs+ of weight reduction. So here's my math:
GT=-30hp/3.31 gears/200lbs more(counting weight reduction)/stock suspension/stock drivetrain/=13.5
Me=+30hp/4.10 gears/200lbs less/ rear control arms,subframe connectors/aluminum DS/=12.5
Let me calculate for u: So with what u said 100lbs=1 tenth, I get 2 tenths there=13.3. Now I have 4.10 gears which have proven to give people 4 tenths in the quarter with good a little widerstreet tires, lower control arms,and t-lok=12.9. The Aluminum DS has been proven to knock off 2 tenths in the 1/4=12.7.I'll leave the launch out of it, b/c a good launcheasilygets stock auto gt's 13.5's. Subframe connectors andBMR front sway bar removal/radiator replacement kitfor better weighttransfer, I'll give another 2 tenths being very reasonable=12.5. I forgot the 30HP,+10hp=.1 in the 1/4, 3 more tenth=12.2. WithPERFECT condtions I am easily running a 12.2. So with a few non-perfect conditions I'll account a few tenths making me at 12.5's.
After reading all these PROVEN facts,Tell mehow is this wrong? someone give another opinion please.

 

Can you clarify what power adder you plan on going with? Non-intercooled Vortech or a turbo kit of some kind?
Also, the way you are adding up all these mods as reducing et's leading down to a 12.2 simply does not happen like that in the real world.
But before I go further I would really like to know the form of power adder you are planning.

 

First,I didn't mean to offend, the alpha male was a joke. Just why can't anyone see how possible 12's are with the set-up. Is anyone gonna come to myaid on the 12's oram I gonna have to wait till everything'sinstalled, dyno's, and I go to thestrip hopefullybyearlyMarch and show slips.subframe connectors are proven to aid in better transfer onANY subframe carand I don't care how much hppeople rpushin, they must aid at least a little(half a tenth). Even if the powerbandis different and boosts are different at different rpm's it's not that much different from aturbo, not 5 tenths different for sure, or no one would buy x-charger's or centrifugal chargers.Intercooler's oncharger's have only dyno's another 30hp tochargers, whichI'm not evencounting inmy calculation of MYhp. So why can't anyone believe me. I'm not crazy, someoneelse see my point?