s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
02-04-2008, 05:17 PM
#81
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
Yep.
Best times listed for those mentioned,oh and nav to be fair
Navbtscret 2006 Mustang Coupe X-S/C 282.0 1.780 8.270@80.51 13.038@103.95
Scrmin 05 Mustang V6 Coupe S/C 313.0 1.866 8.475@89.46 12.845@107.12
hamidlmt 2005 4.0L Mustang S/C 317.4 2.099 8.612@83.26 13.383@102.84
Best times listed for those mentioned,oh and nav to be fair
Navbtscret 2006 Mustang Coupe X-S/C 282.0 1.780 8.270@80.51 13.038@103.95
Scrmin 05 Mustang V6 Coupe S/C 313.0 1.866 8.475@89.46 12.845@107.12
hamidlmt 2005 4.0L Mustang S/C 317.4 2.099 8.612@83.26 13.383@102.84
02-04-2008, 09:37 PM
#83
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
ok...I didn't think that this would be the result of the post and it is why I haven't written again.
First of all, I didn't ask which one is better, just the pros and cons of each and personal experiences.
Since some of you have given me some honest answers, I'll give out my opinion
To those who have installed the centri, how hard was the install? I helped a friend installing his vortech on a 02 GT and I didnt think it was so difficult as some might put it. Is it time consuming? Yes it was. But I dont think it wouldnt be that much harder than a x charger.
What is it in the proccess of installing each s/c? What has to be done to our 4.0 motors?
Also, the reliability issue. I understand the roots has great reliability since mass production speaks for itself.
What else, I guess thats it!!! All the other BS you can keep it!
First of all, I didn't ask which one is better, just the pros and cons of each and personal experiences.
Since some of you have given me some honest answers, I'll give out my opinion
To those who have installed the centri, how hard was the install? I helped a friend installing his vortech on a 02 GT and I didnt think it was so difficult as some might put it. Is it time consuming? Yes it was. But I dont think it wouldnt be that much harder than a x charger.
What is it in the proccess of installing each s/c? What has to be done to our 4.0 motors?
Also, the reliability issue. I understand the roots has great reliability since mass production speaks for itself.
What else, I guess thats it!!! All the other BS you can keep it!
02-04-2008, 10:52 PM
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
ORIGINAL: joeymustang
ok...I didn't think that this would be the result of the post and it is why I haven't written again.
First of all, I didn't ask which one is better, just the pros and cons of each and personal experiences.
Since some of you have given me some honest answers, I'll give out my opinion
To those who have installed the centri, how hard was the install? I helped a friend installing his vortech on a 02 GT and I didnt think it was so difficult as some might put it. Is it time consuming? Yes it was. But I dont think it wouldnt be that much harder than a x charger.
What is it in the proccess of installing each s/c? What has to be done to our 4.0 motors?
Also, the reliability issue. I understand the roots has great reliability since mass production speaks for itself.
What else, I guess thats it!!! All the other BS you can keep it!
ok...I didn't think that this would be the result of the post and it is why I haven't written again.
First of all, I didn't ask which one is better, just the pros and cons of each and personal experiences.
Since some of you have given me some honest answers, I'll give out my opinion
To those who have installed the centri, how hard was the install? I helped a friend installing his vortech on a 02 GT and I didnt think it was so difficult as some might put it. Is it time consuming? Yes it was. But I dont think it wouldnt be that much harder than a x charger.
What is it in the proccess of installing each s/c? What has to be done to our 4.0 motors?
Also, the reliability issue. I understand the roots has great reliability since mass production speaks for itself.
What else, I guess thats it!!! All the other BS you can keep it!
If you go to Explorer Express their install guide is online too. Supposedly it only takes about 7-8 hours. There is no drilling and no running piping under the hood but you have to splice several wires to extend them from reorganizing stuff under the hood.
As far as the motors go, unless you're planning on adding a whole bunch of nitrous you really don't have to do anything to them. With any forced induction on our 4.0 it's suggested that you swap driveshafts and if you're looking for more than 350rwhp with a centri you may want to consider swapping the rear axle out for an 8.8" but there are x and centri users both still using all the stock parts.
02-05-2008, 12:02 AM
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
what are your goals is wat u should be looking at that what it really all depends on, like todd put it before n a bunch of others, i mean i fu just want a little giddy up when ur crusining around go for the x but if u want straight u cant touch me power the forget about a suppercharger go turbo, and a centri is right between that everything has there pros and cons, i'm goning x in my car personely, cuz i dont care about that high 12 runs, if i wanted to go fast ill hope in my 9.7 nova and leve u standing still, my stang is a dd and a car i show off, thats my goal, but lets not get off topic,
let break it down a bit
Ease of install: X
Power: Centi
Price w/o install: centri
Price w/: x(if done ur self even if u didnt it would be much cheaper)
Realibilty: depends on how u drive, but under the same NORMAL(not going wot all the damn time) the x has a slight edge
Best System: what ever fits your budget and make you happy
that my 2 cents, i like both the vortech and x,
but a turbo has my heart=) (cough todd 10.9 cough) if i was going raw power but not u got the forced4 turbo out there that preety kick a$$ for a good price
let break it down a bit
Ease of install: X
Power: Centi
Price w/o install: centri
Price w/: x(if done ur self even if u didnt it would be much cheaper)
Realibilty: depends on how u drive, but under the same NORMAL(not going wot all the damn time) the x has a slight edge
Best System: what ever fits your budget and make you happy
that my 2 cents, i like both the vortech and x,
but a turbo has my heart=) (cough todd 10.9 cough) if i was going raw power but not u got the forced4 turbo out there that preety kick a$$ for a good price
02-05-2008, 06:43 AM
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
ORIGINAL: zid3
what are your goals is wat u should be looking at that what it really all depends on, like todd put it before n a bunch of others, i mean i fu just want a little giddy up when ur crusining around go for the x but if u want straight u cant touch me power the forget about a suppercharger go turbo, and a centri is right between that everything has there pros and cons, i'm goning x in my car personely, cuz i dont care about that high 12 runs, if i wanted to go fast ill hope in my 9.7 nova and leve u standing still, my stang is a dd and a car i show off, thats my goal, but lets not get off topic,
let break it down a bit
Ease of install: X
Power: Centi
Price w/o install: centri
Price w/: x(if done ur self even if u didnt it would be much cheaper)
Realibilty: depends on how u drive, but under the same NORMAL(not going wot all the damn time) the x has a slight edge
Best System: what ever fits your budget and make you happy
that my 2 cents, i like both the vortech and x,
but a turbo has my heart=) (cough todd 10.9 cough) if i was going raw power but not u got the forced4 turbo out there that preety kick a$$ for a good price
what are your goals is wat u should be looking at that what it really all depends on, like todd put it before n a bunch of others, i mean i fu just want a little giddy up when ur crusining around go for the x but if u want straight u cant touch me power the forget about a suppercharger go turbo, and a centri is right between that everything has there pros and cons, i'm goning x in my car personely, cuz i dont care about that high 12 runs, if i wanted to go fast ill hope in my 9.7 nova and leve u standing still, my stang is a dd and a car i show off, thats my goal, but lets not get off topic,
let break it down a bit
Ease of install: X
Power: Centi
Price w/o install: centri
Price w/: x(if done ur self even if u didnt it would be much cheaper)
Realibilty: depends on how u drive, but under the same NORMAL(not going wot all the damn time) the x has a slight edge
Best System: what ever fits your budget and make you happy
that my 2 cents, i like both the vortech and x,
but a turbo has my heart=) (cough todd 10.9 cough) if i was going raw power but not u got the forced4 turbo out there that preety kick a$$ for a good price
My goals on the car? there arent any. I did 15.6 stock and was happy with it. I dont plan on drag racing the car or track. Maybe once or twice but not continuously. That is why I cant decide on which because I honestly like both platforms, I like getting my hands greasy working on my cars so the labor of install aint an issue.
BTW....what is that turbo system you talking about? [8D]
02-05-2008, 06:54 AM
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
There are two turbos out for the 4.0 (STS is the 3rd and now has a test mule), the Forced4 Twister (which is currently not available due to supplier issues) and the Powerhouse Turbo kit. I have the powerhouse kit on my car, very happy with it.
02-05-2008, 09:33 AM
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
Scrmin 05 Mustang V6 Coupe S/C 313.0 1.866 8.475@89.46 12.845@107.12
Just wondering, does anyone have a mods list or link for his mods list at the time? I can't find one.I am really curious to know what he was running when he got this time. Thanks ahead!
Just wondering, does anyone have a mods list or link for his mods list at the time? I can't find one.I am really curious to know what he was running when he got this time. Thanks ahead!
02-05-2008, 09:49 AM
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RE: s/c dilemma...roots or centrifugal
Its been awhile, but if I remember correctly, he was running the following:
-Vortech @ 12psi
-DR's
-LCA's
-UCA
-3in exhaust , no cats, aero turbine muffler
-3.73's w/Tlok
-Turbo Blue Race Gas/Race tune from Lideo
-Drag Shocks
Not sure what else, its been quite a bit since that run.
-Vortech @ 12psi
-DR's
-LCA's
-UCA
-3in exhaust , no cats, aero turbine muffler
-3.73's w/Tlok
-Turbo Blue Race Gas/Race tune from Lideo
-Drag Shocks
Not sure what else, its been quite a bit since that run.