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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Every car I have owned has been a manual except for my current winter car ('92 subaru legacy) which i only bought because the two manuals for sale within 600km were rusted out and or they wanted wayy too much for them (or both). I can understand how automatics are better in rush hour traffic but I just find that an automatic drives you, plus I always get seriously sleepy driving automatics.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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I'm not saying that automatics are inferior, just their drivers j/k
Oh, and I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to do yet for power. I'm thinking about an engine transplant and possibly a bolt on to that depending on the price of the engine. I may not do any work to it except for wheels, t-lock and removing the speed inhibitor until I leave the north.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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There are definitely advantages to autos and manuals. My Vette is an auto but every Mustang I have ever owned is a manual. I like them both for what they do. At the race track the auto is SO consistent. But, I am at a disadvantage in autocross or in the twisties. The GT I ordered is a manual.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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I'm not saying that automatics are inferior, just their drivers j/k

Oh, come on guys. I admit a manual is more fun, and gives you better control, but an automatic is fine sometimes, and some real sports cars have them. My Porsche has one, and most folks would consider it a sports car. I went for a 5-speed Tiptronic auto after driving it and an identical 6-speed back to back at the dealer. Part of this is that the Tiptronic is the "smartest" automatic trans in the world, with its paddle shifters on the wheel and acomputer that learns your driving style. What I like most is that you can get it to downshift one or two gears instantly depending on how you stab the throttle quickly - something you learn quickly, and its smart enough to somehow always know when I want it to hold in a gear and not upshift even if I don't have the car floored but we're at high revs.
As a daily driver in traffic and around town, it makes a lot of sense.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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I'm not saying that automatics are inferior, just their drivers j/k

Oh, come on guys. I admit a manual is more fun, and gives you better control, but an automatic is fine sometimes, and some real sports cars have them. My Porsche has one, and most folks would consider it a sports car. I went for a 5-speed Tiptronic auto after driving it and an identical 6-speed back to back at the dealer. Part of this is that the Tiptronic is the "smartest" automatic trans in the world, with its paddle shifters on the wheel and acomputer that learns your driving style. What I like most is that you can get it to downshift one or two gears instantly depending on how you stab the throttle quickly - something you learn quickly, and its smart enough to somehow always know when I want it to hold in a gear and not upshift even if I don't have the car floored but we're at high revs.
As a daily driver in traffic and around town, it makes a lot of sense.
i dont blame you for that because porsches have stiff clutches

back on topic, if you can afford it go with a auburn posi unit, a t-lok will work but 300 RWHP im assuming your going for will be cutting it kind of close, get some 4.10s while its getting installed to
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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I'm not saying that automatics are inferior, just their drivers j/k

Oh, come on guys. I admit a manual is more fun, and gives you better control, but an automatic is fine sometimes, and some real sports cars have them. My Porsche has one, and most folks would consider it a sports car. I went for a 5-speed Tiptronic auto after driving it and an identical 6-speed back to back at the dealer. Part of this is that the Tiptronic is the "smartest" automatic trans in the world, with its paddle shifters on the wheel and acomputer that learns your driving style. What I like most is that you can get it to downshift one or two gears instantly depending on how you stab the throttle quickly - something you learn quickly, and its smart enough to somehow always know when I want it to hold in a gear and not upshift even if I don't have the car floored but we're at high revs.
As a daily driver in traffic and around town, it makes a lot of sense.

That's very cool about your Porsche... The new automatic in the Mustangs is not that smart... the problem with the Mustang auto is it is upshift happy in order to maximize fuel economy.... But the cool think is that with my SCT X-Cal2 and Extreme Tune software I've develop a shift shedule that really suits my style... Example the stock shift schedule will have the car in 3rd gear by 16MPH at light throttle... I don't come out of first until almost 20MPH... All this talk about not having control with an automatic is no longer true... I have control.... not on every shift but I set the schedule.... I tell the car when to upshift and when to downshift... and while it's not perfect for ever situation it covers most of them...

My auto tranny will run to the redline ever shift... and it never misses... and believe me a missed shift with the Nitrous would probably not be very pretty... or accidently hitting the rev limiter...

And trust me... when I'm WOT I never let off so I can get easy shifts... The car shifts fast and hard... chirps the tires on the 2-3 shift and that's without the juice...

At 13.4 my car is faster than almost all stock GTs.... I would certainly call that sports car performance... regardless of the tranny... Next thing you'll know they'll be saying my car's not a real mustang because it doesn't have a V8.... oh.. that's right they already say that...

Old Jan 15, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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I'm not saying that automatics are inferior, just their drivers j/k

Oh, come on guys. I admit a manual is more fun, and gives you better control, but an automatic is fine sometimes, and some real sports cars have them. My Porsche has one, and most folks would consider it a sports car. I went for a 5-speed Tiptronic auto after driving it and an identical 6-speed back to back at the dealer. Part of this is that the Tiptronic is the "smartest" automatic trans in the world, with its paddle shifters on the wheel and acomputer that learns your driving style. What I like most is that you can get it to downshift one or two gears instantly depending on how you stab the throttle quickly - something you learn quickly, and its smart enough to somehow always know when I want it to hold in a gear and not upshift even if I don't have the car floored but we're at high revs.
As a daily driver in traffic and around town, it makes a lot of sense.
i dont blame you for that because porsches have stiff clutches

back on topic, if you can afford it go with a auburn posi unit, a t-lok will work but 300 RWHP im assuming your going for will be cutting it kind of close, get some 4.10s while its getting installed to
I'm pushing about 390RWTQ through my Track-Lock and it's holding up.... Unless you put some sticky tires on the car the track-lock should be fine... but if you have the extra money then sure, through a stronger diff in... depending on the power adder 4.10 might be to much...
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Ok first I have always been a stick person and I would just like to add the following input. IMO

I like a stick because you have more control over an auto, I can launch my car at 2k 2.5k 3.K 3.5K with this car depending (this is a plus over an auto) how it is hooking up at the track, track conditions, weather conditions, tires I am using that day etc. For a little street action I also have choices for launching at a given RPM depending on the pavement type, traction and conditions. I also have instant real time manual control of my shift points at any given time during a race or a quick 2nd run. A good shifter rarely ever misses a gear it is rare thing for me to miss a gear.

I like to add in case anyone brings it up about purchasing stall converter you are still locked in to the RPM limit.
I am only talking about 11’s and up per my experience along with power shifting per my above input.

I'd like to also mention scrming made a good point about the 390RWTQ and Track-Lock and don't let him kid you about the 13.4 I believe his car is really a high 12 second car as soon as he gets it to hook up better.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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You're saying 4.10's might be too much? Do you mean that the car might not have enough power to properly handle the gearing, or that it would simply rev too high? I'm kinda new to mods, but I'm assuming that as your gear ratio goes up you get more power as you rev higher?

Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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You mentioned a stall converter.... Am I to understand that they make something to stop you from stalling?



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