Need help identifying injector size
#21
Sounds good Cliffy, thanks for the help.
By the way, you said:
This is because the injectors can't modulate the pulse width past 90%, correct? Sorry for all the questions, just the mechanical engineer in me.
By the way, you said:
This is because the injectors can't modulate the pulse width past 90%, correct? Sorry for all the questions, just the mechanical engineer in me.
#22
So, injector duty cycle is the injector pulse width / ((rpm /2 /60)^-1, with the fractional result expressed as a percentage. This is rpm / 2 because the cylinder only fires once for each 2 crank revolutions, then divided by 60 to get firings per second, and the the reciprocal of that to move the value from the frequency domain to the time domain (same as the injector pulse width).
PWinj / (rpm / 2 / 60)^-1, or PWinj / (120 / rpm)
To put numbers to that, assume a 15ms pulse width and engine speed of 3000 rpm; 0.015 / (120 / 3000) = 0.375 = 37.5%
As the duty cycle get much over 90% valve overlap and other timing consideration wreak havoc with the initial and final moments of the injector's opening and closing. At 100% duty cycle, I.e. always open (commonly called "going static") it may still be not enough fuel to meet the intake air requirements the mix goes lean, with f/i this can be very lean very fast and "it" hits the fan.
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You said you are an ME, me too--MSME MIT '71, which seems like a powerfully long time ago...
#23
Makes perfect sense, nice to see the technical explanation behind how the injection system works.
As you may have guessed from the name, I graduated from Syracuse University (BSME '09). Surprisingly, the closest thing I got to a hands-on automotive class there was thermodynamics (carnot, stirling, rankine cycle, etc...). Glad I'm learning this at some point though!
As you may have guessed from the name, I graduated from Syracuse University (BSME '09). Surprisingly, the closest thing I got to a hands-on automotive class there was thermodynamics (carnot, stirling, rankine cycle, etc...). Glad I'm learning this at some point though!
#24
Makes perfect sense, nice to see the technical explanation behind how the injection system works.
As you may have guessed from the name, I graduated from Syracuse University (BSME '09). Surprisingly, the closest thing I got to a hands-on automotive class there was thermodynamics (carnot, stirling, rankine cycle, etc...). Glad I'm learning this at some point though!
As you may have guessed from the name, I graduated from Syracuse University (BSME '09). Surprisingly, the closest thing I got to a hands-on automotive class there was thermodynamics (carnot, stirling, rankine cycle, etc...). Glad I'm learning this at some point though!
Both very heavy reading, however if you want to really "get inside" the ICE process one or both are essential (nearly Biblical). I like Heywood best, though I am partial as I studied with him in the late 60s.
A good, more contemporary and less complex tome is Greg Banish's Engine Management: Advanced Tuning
#25
Have you ever read John Heywood's Internal Combustion Engine Fundamentals or Charles Taylor's Internal Combustion Engine 2 volume set?
Both very heavy reading, however if you want to really "get inside" the ICE process one or both are essential (nearly Biblical). I like Heywood best, though I am partial as I studied with him in the late 60s.
A good, more contemporary and less complex tome is Greg Banish's Engine Management: Advanced Tuning
Both very heavy reading, however if you want to really "get inside" the ICE process one or both are essential (nearly Biblical). I like Heywood best, though I am partial as I studied with him in the late 60s.
A good, more contemporary and less complex tome is Greg Banish's Engine Management: Advanced Tuning
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