2-3 shifting
08-09-2006, 01:16 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0
You'd get one at the Ford dealer...And it shouldn't cost you anything.
You'd get one at the Ford dealer...And it shouldn't cost you anything.
08-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
ORIGINAL: 1QuickShortBus
Iguess you are referring to:
Bulletin #: 0588
Sequence #: 10017919
Date: 06/07/2005
Component Name: 102000 power train:manual transmission
Make: Ford
Model: Mustang
Year: 2005
Summary: Growl/grinding noise in 2nd or 3rd gear during deceleration - tr3650 manual transmission - vehicles built before 1/15/2005. *tt
or possiblly:
Bulletin #: 18753
Sequence #: 10017871
Date: 07/01/2005
Component Name: 102000 power train:manual transmission
Make: Ford
Model: Mustang
Year: 2005
Summary: Gear rollover noise. *tt
Neither of which has anything to do with shifting, one does state grinding noise when decelerating but nothing about shifting. This is not a problem with the transmission grinding when shifting but not even being able to get the shifter into the 3rd gear position becasue the drivetrain is torqued over so much. And one more thing, this TSB is only for vehicles built before 1/15/05 which would indicate they solved the problem after that, yet the original poster has an '06.
Trip, I'm not sure if the comment about the tuner built car was directed towards me, but I sure would like to know.
I guess I just won't offer my input when a site moderator is involved in a discussion because they are always right around here.
Iguess you are referring to:
Bulletin #: 0588
Sequence #: 10017919
Date: 06/07/2005
Component Name: 102000 power train:manual transmission
Make: Ford
Model: Mustang
Year: 2005
Summary: Growl/grinding noise in 2nd or 3rd gear during deceleration - tr3650 manual transmission - vehicles built before 1/15/2005. *tt
or possiblly:
Bulletin #: 18753
Sequence #: 10017871
Date: 07/01/2005
Component Name: 102000 power train:manual transmission
Make: Ford
Model: Mustang
Year: 2005
Summary: Gear rollover noise. *tt
Neither of which has anything to do with shifting, one does state grinding noise when decelerating but nothing about shifting. This is not a problem with the transmission grinding when shifting but not even being able to get the shifter into the 3rd gear position becasue the drivetrain is torqued over so much. And one more thing, this TSB is only for vehicles built before 1/15/05 which would indicate they solved the problem after that, yet the original poster has an '06.
Trip, I'm not sure if the comment about the tuner built car was directed towards me, but I sure would like to know.
I guess I just won't offer my input when a site moderator is involved in a discussion because they are always right around here.
08-09-2006, 01:40 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
actually the sound described in bulletin 0588 I have in second gear with the V6 T5 tranny, if I get the rpms up there and then let off the gas to shift I get that nasty sound until its out of second.
08-09-2006, 01:46 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
I have not dealt with this issue myself, so don't rub it in if I'm wrong LOL but apparently there is an inherent problem with the shifter design as it is mounted to the body. When the drivetrain flexes, the shifter can get itself slightly out of alignment. I understand that is why Ford is doing the torquestrap on the cars that have this problem. My '06 seems to have every other TSB under the sun so I guess I'm fortunate that I do not have this problem. 
08-09-2006, 01:50 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
ORIGINAL: Big Red
actually the sound described in bulletin 0588 I have in second gear with the V6 T5 tranny, if I get the rpms up there and then let off the gas to shift I get that nasty sound until its out of second.
actually the sound described in bulletin 0588 I have in second gear with the V6 T5 tranny, if I get the rpms up there and then let off the gas to shift I get that nasty sound until its out of second.
For some reason I thought Ford stopped using the T5 in 2002 and the new V6 cars got the T3650 as well? Oh well, I guess you learn something new everyday.
08-09-2006, 02:18 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
So all the argueing aside.
Do we all agree that THESE would fix my problem? Has anyone installed these? I will go to a strap if that is better... What do u guys think? I dont want to throw money away if this isnt going to do anything for me.
I found THESE aswell they offer a solid mount. I dont think I want that though. This car is driven daily.
Do we all agree that THESE would fix my problem? Has anyone installed these? I will go to a strap if that is better... What do u guys think? I dont want to throw money away if this isnt going to do anything for me.
I found THESE aswell they offer a solid mount. I dont think I want that though. This car is driven daily.
08-09-2006, 02:26 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
Either of those will solve the problem or the torque limiters I pointed you towards will also for about the same money and give you the benefit of stiffening the k-member at the same time. Plus if it is to harsh it is a 15 minute job to return back to stock for the street and then put them back on for the track.
08-09-2006, 04:16 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
The torque limiter does seem like a good option.
How much if any if ground clearance going to be affected with this?
Will the torque stiffness be equal to the mounts or stiffer?
Will the ride be effected much?
How much if any if ground clearance going to be affected with this?
Will the torque stiffness be equal to the mounts or stiffer?
Will the ride be effected much?
08-09-2006, 04:40 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
Ground clearance isn't effected, the torque limiters can be equal to or stiffer than the poly engine mounts depending on which ones you purchase. The ride will not be effected. However if you purchase the limiters with rod ends you may get a little more vibration (and I mean very little) with poly ends you would get hardly any if any addtional vibration (would be the same as the poly mounts).
08-09-2006, 05:21 PM
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RE: 2-3 shifting
The one I was looking at is found HERE . How do they compare with the engine mounts for stiffness? Is there an advantage either way? It seems like they do the same thing only the torque limiters are easier to install. Would the addition of LT headers make a difference in which one I should buy?