Cams
Hope you get that lag fixed........We need to do a lil racing.............
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RE: Cams
Mods are: 4:10s, C&L street CAI, Bassani SS Racing axle backs w/ factory H-pipe, BBR stage 1 cams and various suspension mods, motor mounts and cosmetics. Waiting to be installed: 3" aluminum driveshaft, BBK throttle body, LCAs and delete plates.
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RE: Cams
ORIGINAL: bl1nkage
That curve seems very steep at the beginning, thats really odd. Im not sure what the reason for your lack of low end power is, sorry... but I would advise against the throttle body. Lots of people, if not most everyone, that has tried an aftermarket TB or spacer has had trouble with it. It really isnt worth it, just return it and keep your money. And I doubt that the delete plates are your problem, yes they do move the power a little higher into the range, but you shouldnt see much of a tq loss down low, maybe ~10 or so, but nothing like youre experiencing.
That curve seems very steep at the beginning, thats really odd. Im not sure what the reason for your lack of low end power is, sorry... but I would advise against the throttle body. Lots of people, if not most everyone, that has tried an aftermarket TB or spacer has had trouble with it. It really isnt worth it, just return it and keep your money. And I doubt that the delete plates are your problem, yes they do move the power a little higher into the range, but you shouldnt see much of a tq loss down low, maybe ~10 or so, but nothing like youre experiencing.
John
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From: Nashville Tn
RE: Cams
ORIGINAL: jwgroovin
My tuner said the delete plates and/or throttle body was the biggest PIA unless you go with a supercharger. He's had more returns and CELs with those two mods. Just my two cents...
John
ORIGINAL: bl1nkage
That curve seems very steep at the beginning, thats really odd. Im not sure what the reason for your lack of low end power is, sorry... but I would advise against the throttle body. Lots of people, if not most everyone, that has tried an aftermarket TB or spacer has had trouble with it. It really isnt worth it, just return it and keep your money. And I doubt that the delete plates are your problem, yes they do move the power a little higher into the range, but you shouldnt see much of a tq loss down low, maybe ~10 or so, but nothing like youre experiencing.
That curve seems very steep at the beginning, thats really odd. Im not sure what the reason for your lack of low end power is, sorry... but I would advise against the throttle body. Lots of people, if not most everyone, that has tried an aftermarket TB or spacer has had trouble with it. It really isnt worth it, just return it and keep your money. And I doubt that the delete plates are your problem, yes they do move the power a little higher into the range, but you shouldnt see much of a tq loss down low, maybe ~10 or so, but nothing like youre experiencing.
John
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RE: Cams
I had the exact same problem with my cams. It has since been retuned - I don't completely remeber how they fixed it, but it has to do with adjusting the cam timing (using the tuner, not a mechanical adjustment).
Also, I would invest in a set of long tubes simply because you're not getting the full benefit of the cams without them.
Also, I would invest in a set of long tubes simply because you're not getting the full benefit of the cams without them.
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From: Illinois
RE: Cams
BBR Cams? Aren't those reground stockers?
The reputation of BBR says it all.
Throttle body is another waste of money. No gains there, only problems.
So you spend all this money for aftermarket cams and throttle body and you car runs like doo-doo.
Cams are a waste on these three valve motors........ the cost is too high for minimal gains. Many people have drivability problemsafter they install them, and they totally affect the power curve that the motor has.
I find it funny thatthese young guysput cams in these motors because they like the sound they give the car at idle. Cams are supposed to beinstalled to increase valve lift, and that can increase power. If you are pushing 20 lbs of boost then maybe you would benefit from a .620 lift cam but even then the car will lose drivability.
Total waste of money.......
The reputation of BBR says it all.
Throttle body is another waste of money. No gains there, only problems.
So you spend all this money for aftermarket cams and throttle body and you car runs like doo-doo.
Cams are a waste on these three valve motors........ the cost is too high for minimal gains. Many people have drivability problemsafter they install them, and they totally affect the power curve that the motor has.
I find it funny thatthese young guysput cams in these motors because they like the sound they give the car at idle. Cams are supposed to beinstalled to increase valve lift, and that can increase power. If you are pushing 20 lbs of boost then maybe you would benefit from a .620 lift cam but even then the car will lose drivability.
Total waste of money.......