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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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resistance is futile! some day you'll be
doing the rear, like this....

just make sure your wood is on the flat spot
of the pumpkin and not touching the diff cover











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I jack up the car in the front on the A- arms and the back on the rear diff (careful not to bend diff cover) or the rear axle itself on either side of the diff. I know I will get crap for saying on the rear diff but it is flat and wide and very easy to stay from the diff cover.
The 07 Mustang Factory Service Manual states the following:
" ! CAUTION: Never use the differential housing as a lift point. Damage to the differential housing and cover may occur."
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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I disagree. The diff housing is more than strong enough and can hold the weight of the back of the car. Just be careful to not get the jack on the diff cover (which is very possible and easy) and you can jack it up place your jack stands either on the axle or the frame rails and you are set. Have you been under the car and seen how thick the steel is for that housing?
ORIGINAL: 157db

I drive up on 2 2x6s nailed together and cut on an angle to
get it up high enough to get the floor jack I now have under it.
I removed the contact plate from the jack and made an aluminum
plate that has a pin on it that fits into a hole on the front frame.
This has rubber on it to prevent scratching. In the rear I replace
the stock jack plate and use the axle tubes. The diff housing
is not strong enough and it will bend somewhat causing leaks
from the diff cover.
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 02:45 AM
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That is exactly what I do...I know the housing is definitely strong enough just not the diff cover obviously. Of course any manual will state that it is not strong enough though it is so there is not any unnecessary warranty work or law suits against Ford if you do use the rear diff housing and something gowrong! A Little common sense goes a long way. I read that in the manual as well on the 06 GT but TacoBill and I agree it is possible and many area mechanics I know agree as well. Just be careful!!!!!!!! Right?!
ORIGINAL: hammeron

resistance is futile! some day you'll be
doing the rear, like this....

just make sure your wood is on the flat spot
of the pumpkin and not touching the diff cover











ORIGINAL: Lees07GT

ORIGINAL: mygt500

I jack up the car in the front on the A- arms and the back on the rear diff (careful not to bend diff cover) or the rear axle itself on either side of the diff. I know I will get crap for saying on the rear diff but it is flat and wide and very easy to stay from the diff cover.
The 07 Mustang Factory Service Manual states the following:
" ! CAUTION: Never use the differential housing as a lift point. Damage to the differential housing and cover may occur."
[IMG]local://upfiles/37808/A7C3955DC4B14DF3AED1732B6E848BA0.jpg[/IMG]
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 02:48 AM
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The factory gear housing is made from cast iron, the axle tubes are steel. The cast iron gear housing is not designed to support the cars weight. It can crack where the axle tubesThat is why Ford says don't use it as a lift point.
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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yep, that's the key right there.....just do it
carefully and it works just fine




ORIGINAL: mygt500

That is exactly what I do...I know the housing is definitely strong enough just not the diff cover obviously. Of course any manual will state that it is not strong enough though it is so there is not any unnecessary warranty work or law suits against Ford if you do use the rear diff housing and something gowrong! A Little common sense goes a long way. I read that in the manual as well on the 06 GT but TacoBill and I agree it is possible and many area mechanics I know agree as well. Just be careful!!!!!!!! Right?!
ORIGINAL: hammeron

resistance is futile! some day you'll be
doing the rear, like this....

just make sure your wood is on the flat spot
of the pumpkin and not touching the diff cover











ORIGINAL: Lees07GT

ORIGINAL: mygt500

I jack up the car in the front on the A- arms and the back on the rear diff (careful not to bend diff cover) or the rear axle itself on either side of the diff. I know I will get crap for saying on the rear diff but it is flat and wide and very easy to stay from the diff cover.
The 07 Mustang Factory Service Manual states the following:
" ! CAUTION: Never use the differential housing as a lift point. Damage to the differential housing and cover may occur."
[IMG]local://upfiles/37808/A7C3955DC4B14DF3AED1732B6E848BA0.jpg[/IMG]
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 03:03 AM
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Great- I will still risk it for the minute or so it takes to get the car in the air and jack stands in place. Oh but doesn't the manual state it is okay to use jack stands on the axle? So if the weight of the rear is on the steel of the axle couldn't that cause a crack in the housing where the axle enters the housing on each side? The housing just might crack in a different spot....isn't that possible? Just thinking things out. J
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: mygt500

Great- I will still risk it for the minute or so it takes to get the car in the air and jack stands in place. Oh but doesn't the manual state it is okay to use jack stands on the axle? So if the weight of the rear is on the steel of the axle couldn't that cause a crack in the housing where the axle enters the housing on each side? The housing just might crack in a different spot....isn't that possible? Just thinking things out. J
No, liftingon the axle close to the spring istotally different than lifting on the differential with regard to stress to the housing. When lifting on the axle, the moment is in close proximity to the weightfrom the vehicle (from the spring), hence, a short moment arm. This results in all the lifting stress or torque being placed on the axle withnegligible forces being applied to the axle housing. However, when you lift at the differential housing, both axles are lifted (double the weight) and the maximum moment arm is achieved in both directions(from thedifferential toboth springs). This results in the maximum possible lifting torque being placed on the differential housing (weight of vehicle times the distance to the springs). You can ignore the warnings from Ford if you like, but itdoes not appear to be simply a general CYA statement. In the rear suspension section of the Mustang Workshop manual, this same warning to never lift the vehicle by the differential housing is repeated a total of six different times. Believe what you will, I just posted this info because not everyone has access to a copy of the factory manual and I thoughtthey ought to know about the warnings from Ford since the advice was put forth here to lift at the differential housing.
Old Jun 3, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Just wait until that pumpkin slides off to the
side of your pieceof wood and you now have
your jack on yur sway bar or worse your
trunk. Some poeple can never be told anything.
They think outside the box. Its all in the leverage.
Jack a tube under the spring, all the weight is transfered
straight up. Jack the pumpkin and all that stress it being
transfered almost 90 degrees to the side over a distance
of almost 2 feet each way. Crack that pumpkin?
The tubes press fit into the pumpkin?? No welding??
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