The clamps do suck ***** but i got them perfectly aligned. One pipe did hang lower and i had to cut the hanger off and have a shop make a new tail pipe hanger because the factory Pypes hanger was too long thus making the pipe hang too low..... I love the sound of my Mid muffs but didn't know they were chinese....

 

Lol. Yup. We wouldn't listen. SPC is the ****. Just depends on if whoever is making it really wants to pursue a better product and spend the $$ to improve vs keeping a moderate product.

I'm looking to do the Pypes MM soon so I hope I'm one of the lucky ones. But it will be fully welded so won't have to worry about leaks. Just need to get it perfect before I lay a bead.

 

and just to add to this, the boomtube cat back setup is exactly 150 dollers more than the axelback. so it puts the price of the pypes midpipes at the same. you will have better luck trying to put the square in the circle hole than making these leak and rattle free

 

The Pros can make everything fit...
It's that the customers prefer having a labor invoice for a $100 instead of 3 times that amount.
Just sayin'.

 

Are these listed on your site? Maybe I'm retarded or the lack of sleep but I didn't notice them.

 

Yep, their clamps don't even compare with OEM ones. After crossing an intersection two years ago, I heard a "clunk" and knew exactly what it was, so I creeped along until I could pull over and stop. Sure enough, the cheap clamp let the mid pipe slide out and hit the road! It didn't damage anything Thank God! I had the shop tack weld it and so far, no problems.

Here's a picture I took with my cell phone of the cheap clamp Vs OEM;



another view of the cheap clamp;

 

can't you just buy better clamps? doesn't seem like a big deal if your gonna have it welded

 

We have the Violaters and the mid muffler system on our site. We can get the over axle pipes if anyone wants them as well. We will be adding the pipe bombs to the site soon too.

http://www.brenspeed.com/sfm60v.html
http://www.brenspeed.com/sfm66.html
http://www.brenspeed.com/sfm62ss.html

 

Sure, but at the time I didn't know they were going to be a problem. Car was in the shop getting duals installed and I didn't want to hold them up.
So far I haven't had any problems from that one being tack welded.