LOL yea. the ford dealer closest to me has like 3 2010 GTs in stock all around 35k. They also have a couple new 2011 GT premiums for 35k and a 2011 CS for 37k LOL! Doesn't make sense why they can't sell the 2010 when they charge as much as a 2011 gt.

their cars are always over priced though comapred to all the other St. Louis area dealers. The same 2010s have been sitting there for months.

 

d*ck sizeing contest

 

That is exactly what I said at first about the 2012 Boss Coyote. But after reading more on it, the 2012 Boss Coyote actually seems to be "de-tuned" or purposefully hobbled by a lame tune from the factory. 440 crank BHP, but actually only 380 crank ft-lbf torque, which unfortunately is 10ft-lbf less than our 2011 Coyote's 390 crank ft-lbf torque

The boss has more aggressive cam profiles so with just a tune, so it seems apparent that you can really wake up the Boss Coyote to milk that cam to its full potential without even dropping a single mod onto the engine.

Additionally to some nice lower end upgrades that the 2011 Coyote does not have: What we 2011 GT owners have been expressing; no forged crank conrods. The forged conrods are necessary for forced induction, especially if you want to use boosts of 10+ psi.

And of course, the 2012 Boss has many other upgrades over any 2011 GTs. As already said, suspension upgrades are part of the plan, as well as lightening p the whole car to make a more powerful Camaro killer.

 

I agree. One major reason why cars become so obsolete so damn quickly is not just general use depriciation of a vehicle, but also that each successive year vehicle has more upgrades and better performance than the previous year.

Many of us bought our cars on 5yr term loans, and just the next year, the very same trim car will be pumping out more power and torque from the factory.


I also agree about this kid: he wants, but he is putting himself out of his means. He isnt even buying the car completely on his own; his parents have to help him out, and they are telling him the same thing you are: Don't buy the new car, continue to use the one he has or buy something more affordable.

And I am with you and his parents on this: he needs to just save his money; either upgrade his current ride with mods, or put that money away for when he can buy the most current car with the most current performance packages, etc.

 

Well when i get out of school in a few years if I don't have a new car by then, then I will get something super nice like a Shelby, a Corvette, or that new z28 Camaro that's coming out thats supposed to rival the shelby. I mean I work hard, and I deserve the very best.

 

then if you know what you want and "deserve" then just go get it...why ask opinions? You know your not going to like the answers we give. And most answers are said out of personal experiences. So its a live and learn thing. I lived, and I sure as hell learned lol...

 

Well I recall that one poster people talk about on here from time to time. that kid who had a GT and wrecked it then his parents bought him a Bullitt and got ripped off on the price of it.

 

Man, just make sure and keep your attitude and this sense of entitlement in check. I don't think anyone on here will begrudge someone wanting to get a nice car, but it really should slot appropriately in with your life's priorities.

Best of success to you.

 

A year from now when the 2012's are on the lot, I would expect like most any other year to be able to buy the '11s for invoice minus probably $2500-4k in rebates. That will depend on the economy and various factors, but either way they would be plenty cheaper than they are right now.

 

I've been a follower of this forum for some time now only using it as a learning resource. Your posts however have driven me to join just so I can voice my opinion (keep that in mind, just my opinion here).

Background - I bought my first car (previously had to borrow the family van from my parents) when I was a Senior in High School. I had a couple summer jobs working at a local golf course in the morning and working as a line cook at night at a nearby applebees. I saved every penny I could after paying for gas. At the end of the summer I bought a 1998 Toyota Camry with 180,000 miles on it for $3,100. I soon after put on some much needed new tires (winter up here in MN is tough with balding tires). I was happy. I had the pride of true ownership of my vehicle - no debt, no loans, no co-signers, no gifts. I earned that car and that made it all the more valuable. The car got me through college and now has over 260k miles on her. I refuse to sell it because it means that much to me.

Fast forward, I now have a full-time job and I'm saving up to pay cash for my GT 5.0. The point of my post is to relay the idea that things are much more valuable and much more appreciated when they are earned. I can't blame you for not loving your '06 because you're not attached to it, you're attached to "what does society i.e. my peers think of my car when I go rumbling by?" "Can I get a lady friend based solely on the bragging rights of the horsepower I've got under the hood?" - at any cost.

Do yourself a favor- use the '06 for all it is, a great american muscle car. Take your time, save your money and have patience. Most Americans have forgotten this ideal, look at the sub-prime housing mess for example.

/rant