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Old 07-06-2006, 02:45 PM
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Hey guys, i have a couple of questions....im not familiar with the cleveland at all. I just got a used 2001 gt 5spd and a guy was going to give me another 4.6 block to build a motor with for my car. But now my did is saying that he will just swap engines with me from his ranchero (however you spell it). My dad isnt going to cheat me out of a motor i know that but would this be a cheaper route then building a whole new 4.6. The 351 is supposed to be pushing around 450hp so would it be better to just pay the money to swap and work off my dads motor?
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:39 PM
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I dont know anyone that makes headers for that personally, I think thats the first obstacle, then its going to be carbureted right? What about emissions? Theres a million issues with this one.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:16 PM
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I dont know anyone that makes headers for that personally, I think thats the first obstacle, then its going to be carbureted right? What about emissions? Theres a million issues with this one.
i might just have to fabricate some headers, and yes carbureted, why would i not pass emissions? Im asking because i dont know not trying to be smart off.
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OK would it be to much to just make the engine fuel injected?
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Old 07-06-2006, 10:01 PM
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To do the swap you would have to fabricate a set of headers. Usually they start off at $500 a set. In 2000 emissions standards were tightened quite a bit so you can forget about passing without going EFI. The obstacle after going efi is getting the cleveland to meet 2000 epa standards. This requires finding a camshaft that will work and still pass. You have so many varibles and no one else has done the research for this. If it is a GT you will have to change out the fuel system or do some very expensive upgrades to get it to work properly. Yours should be a returnless system. To use the EFI system in the car you will spend a couple grand getting just the electronics to work. 2000 cars don't have distributors. You can swap in a 94-95 Mustang GT harness but, the issue of the computer and emissions comes in to play again. I have done the conversion to a 99-up car using a 351w before and it isn't something to do on the weekend.
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:46 AM
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To do the swap you would have to fabricate a set of headers. Usually they start off at $500 a set. In 2000 emissions standards were tightened quite a bit so you can forget about passing without going EFI. The obstacle after going efi is getting the cleveland to meet 2000 epa standards. This requires finding a camshaft that will work and still pass. You have so many varibles and no one else has done the research for this. If it is a GT you will have to change out the fuel system or do some very expensive upgrades to get it to work properly. Yours should be a returnless system. To use the EFI system in the car you will spend a couple grand getting just the electronics to work. 2000 cars don't have distributors. You can swap in a 94-95 Mustang GT harness but, the issue of the computer and emissions comes in to play again. I have done the conversion to a 99-up car using a 351w before and it isn't something to do on the weekend.
yea i know this will be a project thats going to take a while...im going to talk to someone first and get all my parts and then get it built. Why would i need to find a camshaft? well now that i think about its going to be like 3 grand for the manifold, mas, and more then likely custom intake. Headers like you said will be like 5 or 600 if i find a guy with decent prices. tranny will probably run acouple of grand and installation and tune i will probably be around 8000 correct me if im wrong. Now i know i would spend alot more money on the 4.6 because i was building it from bare block, and would probably build it with like gt40 heads and stuff
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:26 AM
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Well, you will also end up with atleast another $2000 in electronics. You also have to change the K-member. The reason for the camshaft change is for emissions. If you want to use electronics that will be OBD II legal you will end up paying alot more than $2000 for it. For less money you could buy a whole wrecked 03 Cobra, add a few things to the motor and install it. To pay someone else to do even half the work to install it will cost you between $10K and $15K.
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