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Old 11-03-2007, 07:24 PM
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hey guys, i'm in the process of building a 408, i read that article on the dart heads in the nov. mmff... and how that got 618hp and all, but i wana know if u guys think the trickflow r series 225's would be a better head, i'm goin to buy either one bare, which do u guys think???
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:46 PM
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if the engine is going to see any kind of RPM's, 5500+, definetly go with a 225 head. compare the flow charts of the 2 heads to see which head provides more flow in the lower number, .1-.5. the flow on one head a might be a little more at .6 lift but head b might flow better than A from .1-.5. go with whatever head flows the best overall.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:16 PM
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TEA 225's

or just check out TEA's websit for any trickflow head
http://www.totalengineairflow.com/pr...ead/tfshiport/
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:12 PM
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I agree totally with Jasperstang...I sold my 5 axis AFR 225'sto get my hands on a set of CNC Trick Flow "R" heads, simply no comparison. But there is also no need without something to feed them, high compression tons of spray or large boost.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:38 PM
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how high of compression u talkin,, 12:1?
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:45 PM
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Ehhh 11+. They can handle a ton of CFM's, you are going to have to aim for a somewhat aggressive camshaft, intake and yeah your compression N/A will have to be pretty good to get the most of them.

I have decided on a Vortech Y trim, so I decided to err onthe big side with those heads.

I know a dude running a 408ci, 11:5:1, Jay Allen custom grind, ported super victor intake, Holley 950 carb and two 250kits (spray) with the Total Engine Airflow CNC Trick Flow "R" heads and laying down 9.20's and he is fixing to dip into the high eights (converting to F.A.S.T. and more spray)
All on the coveted 1969 351W block and forged internals.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:39 AM
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Ehhh 11+. They can handle a ton of CFM's, you are going to have to aim for a somewhat aggressive camshaft, intake and yeah your compression N/A will have to be pretty good to get the most of them.

I have decided on a Vortech Y trim, so I decided to err onthe big side with those heads.

I know a dude running a 408ci, 11:5:1, Jay Allen custom grind, ported super victor intake, Holley 950 carb and two 250kits (spray) with the Total Engine Airflow CNC Trick Flow "R" heads and laying down 9.20's and he is fixing to dip into the high eights (converting to F.A.S.T. and more spray)
All on the coveted 1969 351W block and forged internals.

WOW... is porting the intake really worth it,?? how much roughly does that cost? I plan on running 11:1 or maybe 11.5:1 compression, there will be some factors to decide on before i figure that, but like i said, for sure i'll prolly spray it, and maybe a procharger someday if money is there.
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Ehhh 11+. They can handle a ton of CFM's, you are going to have to aim for a somewhat aggressive camshaft, intake and yeah your compression N/A will have to be pretty good to get the most of them.

I have decided on a Vortech Y trim, so I decided to err onthe big side with those heads.

I know a dude running a 408ci, 11:5:1, Jay Allen custom grind, ported super victor intake, Holley 950 carb and two 250kits (spray) with the Total Engine Airflow CNC Trick Flow "R" heads and laying down 9.20's and he is fixing to dip into the high eights (converting to F.A.S.T. and more spray)
All on the coveted 1969 351W block and forged internals.

WOW... is porting the intake really worth it,?? how much roughly does that cost? I plan on running 11:1 or maybe 11.5:1 compression, there will be some factors to decide on before i figure that, but like i said, for sure i'll prolly spray it, and maybe a procharger someday if money is there.
If it is done by someone reputable absolutely. Knife edging for high r's and opening the runners does wonders. Anything you can do to get more air volume through and not to mention if it is done right, balancing cylinders is an easier task when the runners are equally sized. Getting the rough casting material out of the way and making everything nice and smooth does wonders when it gets to tuning time.

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roughly how much does that cost/
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