Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
6th Gear Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 11,786
From: Virginia
RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
Snake oil.... There's no proof because it's not worth the money to test it. You buy the spacer, then Dyno your car with it off then install it and repeat. Make sure you do it a multiple of time in that order to get the factual result.
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2nd Gear Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 318
From: North Carolina
RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
Plenty of people have the money to test it. Like people who use dyno's all the time. Why not get someone to contact some of these companies that sell them and see if they can produce some results for us.
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,178
From: New York
RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
ORIGINAL: 04BlueGTI'm not saying that spacers work or don't, but the last argument is flawed. 8 FWHP would more closely resemble 5-6 RWHP. Now, I've seen spacers advertised for about $50 on ebay. If 6rwhp cost $50, then 12rwhp - $100, 24rwhp - $200. How many of us on this forum purchased CAI's for a net gain of 5 rwhp? How many of us paid a hell of a lot more than $50? If I could get 6 rwhp for $50 I'd do it right now. A new x pipe and catback nets about 12rwhp? I paid more than $100 for my exhaust. I rest my case.Again, I'm not saying it will work or not, only that the theory is sound in principle (not the theory you cited in your posting). However, as has been proven time and again, when it comes to cars, trial and error can usually do more than theory. Sound theory is a poor substitute for results.
The January issue of MM&FF had a DVD that was attached to it so even though I had a subscription I bought it and even on a 3v the typical bolt ons did very little. Not until they got to the SC did the car make appreciable power.
So it's not just the spacers but most of the typical bolt ons that we all have bought.
Accufab is the best TB/plenum and it is over $400. for 6-7whp!
I don't know what Jason goes by on here but he says the FIRST mod should be an SC!
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2nd Gear Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 318
From: North Carolina
RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
Good point on the Supercharger. Probably one of the best mods you can do for your money, however we are still no closer to knowing the truth of our spacer dilemma....
the search continues...
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I ♥ Acer
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,928
From: Colorado- 8500 feet!
RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
Idk the Mach one guys swear by it. I had a buddy that said he felt a difference. I put a throttle body spacer and a fuel spacer on my chevy truck and i noticed a little bit better throttle response and it sounded louder on the intake but honestly wasnt a big improvement. But it was only like $35 so idk.
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,363
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RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
i think the mach 1s are different. there spacer provides more distance between the upper plenum and lower, alot different design. its kinda like the 350z concept, they make a spacer for those plenums that provides a solid 10-15 dyno provenhorsepower.
5th Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,387
From: Georgia
RE: Intake spacer - PROOF !!!!!!!!!
ORIGINAL: sweet99
TRUE! Although I did think my JLT CAI lived up to it's claims. For a new guy I would say to skip UDP's, larger TB/plenum & exhaust work(except for cutting the stock mufflers out and adding the muffs of your choice for sound.
The January issue of MM&FF had a DVD that was attached to it so even though I had a subscription I bought it and even on a 3v the typical bolt ons did very little. Not until they got to the SC did the car make appreciable power.
So it's not just the spacers but most of the typical bolt ons that we all have bought.
Accufab is the best TB/plenum and it is over $400. for 6-7whp!
I don't know what Jason goes by on here but he says the FIRST mod should be an SC!
ORIGINAL: 04BlueGTI'm not saying that spacers work or don't, but?the last argument is flawed. 8 FWHP would more closely resemble 5-6 RWHP. Now, I've seen spacers advertised for about $50 on ebay.?If 6rwhp cost $50, then 12rwhp - $100, 24rwhp - $200. How many of us on this forum purchased CAI's for a net gain of 5 rwhp? How many of us paid a hell of a lot more than?$50? If I could get 6 rwhp for $50 I'd do it right now. A new x pipe and catback nets about 12rwhp? I paid more than $100 for my exhaust. I rest my case.Again, I'm not saying it will work or not, only that the theory is sound in principle (not the theory you cited in your posting). However, as has been proven time and again, when it comes to cars, trial and error can usually do more than theory. Sound theory is a poor substitute for results.
The January issue of MM&FF had a DVD that was attached to it so even though I had a subscription I bought it and even on a 3v the typical bolt ons did very little. Not until they got to the SC did the car make appreciable power.
So it's not just the spacers but most of the typical bolt ons that we all have bought.
Accufab is the best TB/plenum and it is over $400. for 6-7whp!
I don't know what Jason goes by on here but he says the FIRST mod should be an SC!