500 rwhp but what clutch?
03-27-2009, 01:01 AM
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that like building a billet rodded, billet crank, custom piston shortblock for a car trying to make 400rwhp..
i have mcleods 1400dollar street twin clutch in my car, never in my life would i reccomend it to someone who could get away with a much smaller one..
engagement sucks, needs alot of extra throw, and the fact that i have to run the clutch pedal at stock or close to stock height really bothers me..
Not to mention install time is about doubled between the two disks, flywheel, friction disk, pressure plate, and about 20 shims inbetween them all.
03-27-2009, 01:06 AM
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Driving has nothing to do with hooking on street tires on the street at a certain rwhp level...
Its not hard to put a car in gear and hit the gas, if you can do this in 3rd gear at 80mph and the car still breaks loose, the best driver in the world wont make a damn bit of difference..
also hooking up a full suspension 4k pound irs equiped mustang is a whole different ballgame compared to your average 400rwhp stockish suspension 245 275 **** tire car.
Its not hard to put a car in gear and hit the gas, if you can do this in 3rd gear at 80mph and the car still breaks loose, the best driver in the world wont make a damn bit of difference..
also hooking up a full suspension 4k pound irs equiped mustang is a whole different ballgame compared to your average 400rwhp stockish suspension 245 275 **** tire car.
if you have enough power to spin the tires at 80, and you're just slamming the gas and slipping the clutch, you need to hand over your keys.
anybody with that much power needs to learn throttle control.
such as the OP, he's building a 500rwhp car. I hope he knows how to control the throttle well enough that he DOESN'T brake loose at 30-80mph, even if he's on Sumitomo's.
Will he go slower, yeah. Are you going to run near the same time on a track as you would if you could grab traction and be at WOT the entire way down? hell no, but youll be faster than just sitting there spinning.
03-27-2009, 01:09 AM
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put it on the dyno and it slipped before 4krpm, it was a load mustang dyno..
on the street never once did he have an issue on it...
brought the car back for a spec 3+ and it looked perfectly normal except for one big hotspot..
if it was on a dyno jet, or he never put it on a dyno he would have never had a problem and its probly in the upper 400range..
hell i never once had my last clutch slip till i broke my 3rd gear syncro and the load from going 2nd to 4th it would always chirp like crazy, and wouldnt hold the power on nitrous.
03-27-2009, 01:10 AM
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build up the 3650 and that will handle more rwhp than 99percent of 2v cars will ever make.
03-27-2009, 01:18 AM
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if you have enough power to spin the tires at 80, and you're just slamming the gas and slipping the clutch, you need to hand over your keys.
anybody with that much power needs to learn throttle control.
such as the OP, he's building a 500rwhp car. I hope he knows how to control the throttle well enough that he DOESN'T brake loose at 30-80mph, even if he's on Sumitomo's.
Will he go slower, yeah. Are you going to run near the same time on a track as you would if you could grab traction and be at WOT the entire way down? hell no, but youll be faster than just sitting there spinning.
anybody with that much power needs to learn throttle control.
such as the OP, he's building a 500rwhp car. I hope he knows how to control the throttle well enough that he DOESN'T brake loose at 30-80mph, even if he's on Sumitomo's.
Will he go slower, yeah. Are you going to run near the same time on a track as you would if you could grab traction and be at WOT the entire way down? hell no, but youll be faster than just sitting there spinning.
why even give it any gas at all? why even build it to make power just to go half throttle?
hell the whole point of building a 500rwhp is either to smoke the cars from a roll in 2nd or 3rd gear, or have it be so fast it scares people..
a boosted car aint going nowhere at part throttle..
03-27-2009, 01:21 AM
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i could part thottle my car all day long and keep traction, but at 0 boost, with all the extra weight, extra restriction, and all that crap from the turbo i would probly loose to stock ls1s........
any sort of real throttle in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear and it will roast stock sized mustang tires while the speedo reads 120+mph..
this is with 3.27 gears, and a suspension that can plant 640lb ft of torque at a 40roll with a decent radial tire on it.
any sort of real throttle in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear and it will roast stock sized mustang tires while the speedo reads 120+mph..
this is with 3.27 gears, and a suspension that can plant 640lb ft of torque at a 40roll with a decent radial tire on it.
03-28-2009, 07:32 AM
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throttle control is good for dig runs, but it is stupid to even mention it in roll type race...
why even give it any gas at all? why even build it to make power just to go half throttle?
hell the whole point of building a 500rwhp is either to smoke the cars from a roll in 2nd or 3rd gear, or have it be so fast it scares people..
a boosted car aint going nowhere at part throttle..
why even give it any gas at all? why even build it to make power just to go half throttle?
hell the whole point of building a 500rwhp is either to smoke the cars from a roll in 2nd or 3rd gear, or have it be so fast it scares people..
a boosted car aint going nowhere at part throttle..
What size clutch do we have with TR3650? Is it 11" or 10.5???
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