definately. the only reason i don't have sound clips now is because my exhaust is literally falling off the car with rust. MD has TERRIBLE salt problems with rust, so i'm going completely stainless steel with my exhaust. Pypes longtubes & h-pipe w/flows. since MACs are the same as Pypes and the 40 series and super 40 series aren't too different, i'm HOPING that my car doesn't sound too different. i just want all the exhaust leaks to go away lol

 

Again everyone thanks for the input. Flowmaster headers sound good.

 

i think you misunderstood. flowmaster does not make headers. we were simply talking about the cat-back in reference to flowmasters.

 

It depends on what your current mods are more than anything but a set of $800 kooks or SLP are going to have a good advantage in "Power" under the curve over the cheaper sets. That is, if you are truly trying to find the BEST header. I have macs; they sound and perform very well. Worth the price and install.

 

I dyno'd my car before and after headers to see the actual difference it made. Then I dyno'd after I got it tuned. When each was installed/applied, the butt dyno could definitely tell something was there.. but how much?

Well my baseline dyno with BBK CAI, Accufab 70mm TB/Plenum, and Magnapack Exhaust was 230.5rwhp and 259.7rwtq.
After install of BBK Longtubes with O/R H-pipe, I pulled 242.7rwhp and 267rwtq.
That's an increase of 12.2rwhp and 7.3rwtq. However, the curves are both much fatter throughout the entire rpm range and it pulls a lot more at higher speeds.

It cost me 700 for the parts and 600 for the labor. I wouldn't say that for the power alone it's worth the 1300, but the sound, OMG THE SOUND, I LOVEEEE ITTTT!! My GT sounds sooooo much more beasty! Here's a link to the sound, http://youtube.com/watch?v=FBMU4FpSuXU (I also put on an O/R X to see the difference and I like that one better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp7fy0l72W4).

Then I got my SCT X3 tuner and had my car dyno tuned by GTR High Performance in Rancho Cucamonga, CA. He advanced my timing, changed the spark a little bit, and adjusted the cooling fan operation temperatures. I ran 253rwhp and 287rwtq.
That increased 10.3rwhp and 20rwtq with the tune for my peak hp but the midrange was where I noticed the power increase the most. It just PULLED constantly up to redline! That put a smile on my face and definitely woke up my car.

So going from my baseline run, adding BBK LTs, O/R H or X, and tune, I gained 22.5rwhp and 27.3rwtq (and ~15-20ish hp/tq throughout the powerband as well). Not too bad

The audio quality on the videos may be somewhat deceiving as the X and H pipes do sound similar.

The H pipe was louder than the X, however around 2500rpms, the H gets a raspy sound almost all the way up to redline (dies off at 5000ish when the exhaust is just a huge boom haha. The H will give you that rough, muscle car sound with lots of backfire.

The X pipe is still loud, but in general, it is a more refined sound. The rasp is still there around 2500rpms but only lasts till about 3000rpms. The sound inside the cabin is smoother and not quite as loud, but it still has a decent amount of backfire. I like the X better, personally, because it is a cleaner sound but still retains that V8 rumble. I get compliments on it all the time.

If you go with the catted pipes, however, the rasp is eliminated. I have the catted X pipe as well, but I haven't taken any videos of it. When I get it on, I'll post up a couple videos so you guys can hear it. It's definitely much quieter and there's not very much backfire.

 

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Good post! I like to read about step by step gains and comparisons.

 

Wow thats pretty impressive the increases from simple add ons. Thanks a lot