2v vs. 4v
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I wont choose a side on it since, like I said, "I think it's retarded" but all engine are reliable and unreliable. The more power they make, the less reliable they become. That's true for 2v's and 4v's.
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LSx powerplants are very, very, very good large displacement pushrod motors 
. I will never say anything other after owning an 02' SS. However I traded that car in on the 07' mustang and there's no comparison in suspension/refinement while still being able to break that sucker down in your garage and modify. All I care about is the ability to jack my car on jackstands and replace any component on the car in my garage. The S197 is immensely easier than the 02 ss in that regard, however I would have immediately purchased another camaro if they would have been available in 07. The LS engines are just that good.
Not that you can't build a 3V, boost to the moon while having the refinement, ease of work and still rule the road.
. I will never say anything other after owning an 02' SS. However I traded that car in on the 07' mustang and there's no comparison in suspension/refinement while still being able to break that sucker down in your garage and modify. All I care about is the ability to jack my car on jackstands and replace any component on the car in my garage. The S197 is immensely easier than the 02 ss in that regard, however I would have immediately purchased another camaro if they would have been available in 07. The LS engines are just that good.Not that you can't build a 3V, boost to the moon while having the refinement, ease of work and still rule the road.
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I never sayd I dislike LS engines or there not good, I just like the 4.6 and love how people get asshurt if you don't praise them or say they the greatest thing ever made. As for being jealous of not having one pfft ! I'd rather own a mivec or boxer 4 banger with nice boost added to it. I agree ls are monsters just not the greatest, 4v is the king of middle class american's performance car.
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I love how the mods just pulled this out of another thread and made it its own and made me look like a retard posting random stuff. Just so everyone is clear, the mods must have pulled part of another thread out and made it its own thread giving me credit for it. Im not that random and i am not that in love with the 2v. I like the 2v and they are decent overall motors, no matter what people say. I was rolling around tonight and was holding my own against an 02 ss with just the mods in my sig and he wasnt completely stock either. But my reasoning for the lower compression for blower and higher for turbo is because for the supercharger, you dont need compression to make it respond better. By having higher compression to the turbo motor, you will make the turbo(s) spool quicker, but you may not be able to run as much boost and timing as you could with lower compression. I just want the turbo to spool quick if thats the route i go with my car. And with the KB, you want like sub 9:1 compression from what ive read and heard on here. So sorry if you thought i was that random to make that post outta thin air...but i didnt.
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The LSX motors are badass. I thought about an LSX swap into my Mustang, but decided on a 4v swap due to it being way easier and not having to make a custom wiring harness to work right. And with the 4v swap I could do it for a lot less money at a time, since I could do bits and pieces rather than have to drop a ton of money just to make an LSX motor even start up in my car.
As far as LSX vs 4.6, it's really a preference. LS motors are faster stock, and cheaper to make faster, but that goes with most pushrod motors. They're simpler, and parts are cheaper.
The 4.6 is great (2v, 3v, or 4v) cause it's decently quick stock (4v and 3v more so) and can be made pretty fast, but it's more expensive than a pushrod motor. But then again, anything can be made fast with enough money. ****, I can make my John Deere fast if I wanted to.
Once the Mustang is closer to done (cause I'll never really feel "done") I'm throwing either an LS1 or a 6.0 truck motor in my Blazer. The nice thing about the 4.3 is that's it's basically a small block Chevy with the back two cylinders cut off, so the transmission should bolt up. And since it's GM to GM, the wiring harness will be easier to make/modify since all the sensors work in the same way. I think they even make conversion harness for S/T trucks to take a small block. Should be a fun little sleeper.
As far as LSX vs 4.6, it's really a preference. LS motors are faster stock, and cheaper to make faster, but that goes with most pushrod motors. They're simpler, and parts are cheaper.
The 4.6 is great (2v, 3v, or 4v) cause it's decently quick stock (4v and 3v more so) and can be made pretty fast, but it's more expensive than a pushrod motor. But then again, anything can be made fast with enough money. ****, I can make my John Deere fast if I wanted to.
Once the Mustang is closer to done (cause I'll never really feel "done") I'm throwing either an LS1 or a 6.0 truck motor in my Blazer. The nice thing about the 4.3 is that's it's basically a small block Chevy with the back two cylinders cut off, so the transmission should bolt up. And since it's GM to GM, the wiring harness will be easier to make/modify since all the sensors work in the same way. I think they even make conversion harness for S/T trucks to take a small block. Should be a fun little sleeper.
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haha youre funny^^^in that case, 2v owns!!! lol but ohc wise, the 2v is the underdog because of how small the cylinders being so narrow and not having proper clearance to flow the amount that would be nice...which is why im sooooo happy that ford came out with the 6.2L SOHC motor. Yay 2v!!!
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LOL, dude you have no clue what you are talking about...
at any horsepower level 400 500 600 700 and on up.. A 4v is more reliable in every sense of the word.. Its easier on parts, both valvetrain, and shortblock parts.....
what is this track record that you speak of? a guys cousin, that someone down the street knows?
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW WITH a 2v racecar? since in a race car you claim this is the case..
at any horsepower level 400 500 600 700 and on up.. A 4v is more reliable in every sense of the word.. Its easier on parts, both valvetrain, and shortblock parts.....
what is this track record that you speak of? a guys cousin, that someone down the street knows?
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW WITH a 2v racecar? since in a race car you claim this is the case..
You can insult me all you want... your still wrong. 2v is far more reliable than a 4v if for no other reason than murphy's law especially in a race car. BTW there alot more people racing 2vs then 4vs... alot of people with true dedicated real "race cars" dont run modulars for two reasons... power and reliability.
... interested to know how a 4v is easier on short block parts... The argument that a part that is twice as complicated, twice as heavy with twice as many moving parts is more reliable simply defies even the simplest of intellects.
Last edited by Fobra; Nov 24, 2009 at 11:56 PM.
