you obviously have no idea how a stall converter works, please dont give advice on them. the car will still move with just the motor idling even with a 5000rpm stall converter.


to the OP, i run a custom converter from art carr......and by custom i mean it was custom to my last motor. looks like the stall speed is going to work even better with the turbos then the vortech

 

I run an art carr as well,3500 on the street with NO issues with drivablity,wish it was bigger but....wait...thats what she said.

 

We run a old JUNK as most say TCI 3800 it was behind the S/C engine and now the turbo as well works real good it is a bit lose acting on the street with 3.31 gears and a 28in tall tire but we have no issues at all with it ever and it has seen some abuse and lots of miles put on it and track passes. it is 6 years old or so. I have a customer that is running a Red Neck 4000 on the street and it also works VERY WELL I like it much better then my TCI and it was priced right. Make sure you run a BIG cooler with the C4 and if you can run a deep pan. Heat kills a C4 due to the low amount of fluid they run.

 

Deep pan ftw^^

 

I think I am going to try out a 3000 redneck stall for $345. Leaves me with enough money to get my driveshaft cut and balanced. How bout one of the $45 coolers from autozone?

 

Luckythirteen13 gets a little hot under the collar it seems. Perhaps you would like a term paper detailing why I said what I said?

I have better things to do with my time. Suffice it to say, the purpose of a high stall converter is to increase the speed differential between the crank speed and the pump speed inside the converter. This maximizes the torque multiplication. This is overkill on a street car. Remember, the OP stated that his car "may see some track".

My statement about the light was 'loose' with reality, I'll grant you that, but the point of it is true. Anything over a 3000 stall on the street is overkill and a waste. Especially on a car that "MAY see some track".

 

i took it literally, there are so many people who literally think thats how it works. then they get on the internet and give incorrect info. then those people who read it pass the wrong info to the next person, so on and so on. its like a disease. you are right tho on the need for a high stall converter for a street car. anything over may not be necessary but luckily the aod is a lock up style tranny so you can run a high stall and once the tranny hits 3rd, the converter locks so the power goes straight from the motor to the tranny, basically bypassing the converter giving you miliage as if the converter was stock. stall speed is also based on hp. if you buy off the shelf, always buy a converter rated for more then you want because they never stall as high as advertised.

for example, before i went to a one piece input shaft on my aod, i ran a 3000 stall custom made for my sc 302 making 461rwhp. it would flash just past 3000rpm. i sold the sc and stall to a guy when i built this motor. he put the converter in right away but not the sc. he told me it stalled at 2200 and not the 3000 i claimed. i told him to wait till he got the sc in and itll stall higher. sure enough, when the sc was put it, the converter stalled at 2900

 

the problem with that line of thinking is when it does see the track, 60's will be dissapointing as the lack luster feel for the azzometer as it slowly rolls outta the hole..........gotta friend who followed the above philosophy, and his was a bracket racer, he made me take the 3400 stall out cause he was concerned about the streetability of it while driving to the track, I wanted to smack him for that corral type mentality, he had me put a 3000 in and on the foot brake he can barely bring it up to 2300 rpm's before it starts to push the car, needless to say his 347 with a c-4 and now 3000 stall, 60's like a fish floating belly up, and he gets all gitty when he gets a high 1.8 60ft time...translate that to street running , and your **** just got cracked by one hip honda v-tec........to each his own

 

It may see some track but I want to be able to take off on other cars on the street and figured with a stall and some gears I'd be doing pretty good!

 

a buddy of mine is running an sc with a 2600 stall. It actually stalls up to about 3 grand. That with a shift kit is the best mod I have seen him do for his times at the track yet. It launches like a beast on the street now too. The rest of the time it drives like a normal vehicle.