Replaced Speakers
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What would be a good set of components for the front? $300 or less.
What would be a good set of components for the front? $300 or less.
jl audio xr
mb quart premium (might have to shop around)
focal polykevlar (might have to shop around)
cdt
boston pro
alpine type r/x
look into:
dynaudio
rainbow
...kicker makes some nice mids but i dont prefer their tweets
these are NOT ranked, just in the order they came into my head.
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Any of these per the vehicle specific fit guide.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-RDsAmRy...sp?g=410&avf=Y
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-RDsAmRy...sp?g=410&avf=Y
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Being in the back of the car, you are hit with stronger accoustic vibrations. Added onto the fact that your left knee won't be blocking the driver side subwoofer. Naturally it'll be louder.
Overall you are indeed best to just rip it out and start over, depending on what you desire from your sound. Personally I don't take music lightly, I am a huge fan of music. Both the art of creating and simply listening. So when I listen to it I need to feel it.
Previous system was Planet Audio carbon Z series subs, 600 watts. But getting anew. I ended up buying dual kicker 12" L7s powered by a hifonics brutus amplifier (some of the best quality amps!). 2000w monoblock. Run it parallel for 1K to each L7. A little over suggested RMS but honestly Kickers are inefficient subs and can take the power without damage. I chose them for that reason. They hit hard, yet have a "muddy" signature. So I can have both a low rumble and a fast-hitting punch all from the same sub.
Overall you are indeed best to just rip it out and start over, depending on what you desire from your sound. Personally I don't take music lightly, I am a huge fan of music. Both the art of creating and simply listening. So when I listen to it I need to feel it.
Previous system was Planet Audio carbon Z series subs, 600 watts. But getting anew. I ended up buying dual kicker 12" L7s powered by a hifonics brutus amplifier (some of the best quality amps!). 2000w monoblock. Run it parallel for 1K to each L7. A little over suggested RMS but honestly Kickers are inefficient subs and can take the power without damage. I chose them for that reason. They hit hard, yet have a "muddy" signature. So I can have both a low rumble and a fast-hitting punch all from the same sub.
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ORIGINAL: Meph
Being in the back of the car, you are hit with stronger accoustic vibrations. Added onto the fact that your left knee won't be blocking the driver side subwoofer. Naturally it'll be louder.
Overall you are indeed best to just rip it out and start over, depending on what you desire from your sound. Personally I don't take music lightly, I am a huge fan of music. Both the art of creating and simply listening. So when I listen to it I need to feel it.
Previous system was Planet Audio carbon Z series subs, 600 watts. But getting anew. I ended up buying dual kicker 12" L7s powered by a hifonics brutus amplifier (some of the best quality amps!). 2000w monoblock. Run it parallel for 1K to each L7. A little over suggested RMS but honestly Kickers are inefficient subs and can take the power without damage. I chose them for that reason. They hit hard, yet have a "muddy" signature. So I can have both a low rumble and a fast-hitting punch all from the same sub.
Being in the back of the car, you are hit with stronger accoustic vibrations. Added onto the fact that your left knee won't be blocking the driver side subwoofer. Naturally it'll be louder.
Overall you are indeed best to just rip it out and start over, depending on what you desire from your sound. Personally I don't take music lightly, I am a huge fan of music. Both the art of creating and simply listening. So when I listen to it I need to feel it.
Previous system was Planet Audio carbon Z series subs, 600 watts. But getting anew. I ended up buying dual kicker 12" L7s powered by a hifonics brutus amplifier (some of the best quality amps!). 2000w monoblock. Run it parallel for 1K to each L7. A little over suggested RMS but honestly Kickers are inefficient subs and can take the power without damage. I chose them for that reason. They hit hard, yet have a "muddy" signature. So I can have both a low rumble and a fast-hitting punch all from the same sub.
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Being in the back of the car, you are hit with stronger accoustic vibrations. Added onto the fact that your left knee won't be blocking the driver side subwoofer. Naturally it'll be louder.
Overall you are indeed best to just rip it out and start over, depending on what you desire from your sound. Personally I don't take music lightly, I am a huge fan of music. Both the art of creating and simply listening. So when I listen to it I need to feel it.
Previous system was Planet Audio carbon Z series subs, 600 watts. But getting anew. I ended up buying dual kicker 12" L7s powered by a hifonics brutus amplifier (some of the best quality amps!). 2000w monoblock. Run it parallel for 1K to each L7. A little over suggested RMS but honestly Kickers are inefficient subs and can take the power without damage. I chose them for that reason. They hit hard, yet have a "muddy" signature. So I can have both a low rumble and a fast-hitting punch all from the same sub.
Being in the back of the car, you are hit with stronger accoustic vibrations. Added onto the fact that your left knee won't be blocking the driver side subwoofer. Naturally it'll be louder.
Overall you are indeed best to just rip it out and start over, depending on what you desire from your sound. Personally I don't take music lightly, I am a huge fan of music. Both the art of creating and simply listening. So when I listen to it I need to feel it.
Previous system was Planet Audio carbon Z series subs, 600 watts. But getting anew. I ended up buying dual kicker 12" L7s powered by a hifonics brutus amplifier (some of the best quality amps!). 2000w monoblock. Run it parallel for 1K to each L7. A little over suggested RMS but honestly Kickers are inefficient subs and can take the power without damage. I chose them for that reason. They hit hard, yet have a "muddy" signature. So I can have both a low rumble and a fast-hitting punch all from the same sub.
a)the back seat is actually one of the locations of LEAST resonance, as it is the most wide-open space in the car. the most resonance will be in the corners of the trunk and the corners of the dash (wonder why dbdrag/iasca/etc put their mic on the windshield?). the cause of "more" loudness in the back seat is a product of cancellation in the front seat due to a sub in the front door and a sub in the trunk playing the same note, with their sound waves hitting at different intervals and causing canellation.
b)your left knee will make minimal dampening effect on a wavelength of 32 feet
. that is only true for higher frequencies from a midbass driver that blocking its path will make a significant difference (some? of course. very noticeable? not really.)c)l7s are amazing spl woofers for the average person, and hifonics makes some awesome *cheap* amps. hifonics brutus/zeus/atlas/etc are no where near the best quality amps. they serve a purpose: get you their advertised rms power for cheap and with decent clarity, but all of those are compromises of each other, and it is apparent when you sit them next to a genuine *high end* amp.
d)"muddy" has more to do with the install and tuning than the sub. i can make a 6.5in speaker get almost as loud as a 10in sub, but sound like absolute crap doing so.
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RE: Replaced Speakers
ORIGINAL: Sleeper05
a)the back seat is actually one of the locations of LEAST resonance, as it is the most wide-open space in the car. the most resonance will be in the corners of the trunk and the corners of the dash (wonder why dbdrag/iasca/etc put their mic on the windshield?). the cause of "more" loudness in the back seat is a product of cancellation in the front seat due to a sub in the front door and a sub in the trunk playing the same note, with their sound waves hitting at different intervals and causing canellation.
a)the back seat is actually one of the locations of LEAST resonance, as it is the most wide-open space in the car. the most resonance will be in the corners of the trunk and the corners of the dash (wonder why dbdrag/iasca/etc put their mic on the windshield?). the cause of "more" loudness in the back seat is a product of cancellation in the front seat due to a sub in the front door and a sub in the trunk playing the same note, with their sound waves hitting at different intervals and causing canellation.
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ooops...that was assuming having a subwoofer in the trunk. still, the corners of the trunk *should* be louder than the middle of the back seat even if the subs are in the front doors, because the sound waves pressurize and resonate more there.
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Well yes, I should've pointed that out. For the price Hifonics is great. I can list a couple companies that make superior products... but they come with a superior price! Obviously competition quality equipment will reign all. Just that not everybody wants to fork over the necessary dough. But in their price range they are close to top of the class, giving the teacher an apple even.
And muddy is just how I think Kickers sound personally. Airtight AE box even. They eat up all the juice you can toss them but are also inefficient. But for those that like that low muddy booming rumble it's their dream. Others want a very sharp precise mule kick, usually those who listen to Metallica and Slayer to just obliterate their insides with killer double bass action. But I know if I have adequate setups, one Kicker and one... say... Rockford. RF will have a crisper sound.
For the sub I assumed front doors only. If we are also talking about trunk subs also then I retract previous statement. Must've misinterpreted the question.
And muddy is just how I think Kickers sound personally. Airtight AE box even. They eat up all the juice you can toss them but are also inefficient. But for those that like that low muddy booming rumble it's their dream. Others want a very sharp precise mule kick, usually those who listen to Metallica and Slayer to just obliterate their insides with killer double bass action. But I know if I have adequate setups, one Kicker and one... say... Rockford. RF will have a crisper sound.
For the sub I assumed front doors only. If we are also talking about trunk subs also then I retract previous statement. Must've misinterpreted the question.
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Well yes, I should've pointed that out. For the price Hifonics is great. I can list a couple companies that make superior products... but they come with a superior price! Obviously competition quality equipment will reign all. Just that not everybody wants to fork over the necessary dough. But in their price range they are close to top of the class, giving the teacher an apple even.
And muddy is just how I think Kickers sound personally. Airtight AE box even. They eat up all the juice you can toss them but are also inefficient. But for those that like that low muddy booming rumble it's their dream. Others want a very sharp precise mule kick, usually those who listen to Metallica and Slayer to just obliterate their insides with killer double bass action. But I know if I have adequate setups, one Kicker and one... say... Rockford. RF will have a crisper sound.
For the sub I assumed front doors only. If we are also talking about trunk subs also then I retract previous statement. Must've misinterpreted the question.
Well yes, I should've pointed that out. For the price Hifonics is great. I can list a couple companies that make superior products... but they come with a superior price! Obviously competition quality equipment will reign all. Just that not everybody wants to fork over the necessary dough. But in their price range they are close to top of the class, giving the teacher an apple even.
And muddy is just how I think Kickers sound personally. Airtight AE box even. They eat up all the juice you can toss them but are also inefficient. But for those that like that low muddy booming rumble it's their dream. Others want a very sharp precise mule kick, usually those who listen to Metallica and Slayer to just obliterate their insides with killer double bass action. But I know if I have adequate setups, one Kicker and one... say... Rockford. RF will have a crisper sound.
For the sub I assumed front doors only. If we are also talking about trunk subs also then I retract previous statement. Must've misinterpreted the question.
ya look at jlaudio they have kick *** quality but itll cost you allot of $ 4 it. They arent the most expensive but you get the point.