You will have a hard time finding a premade adapter to fit 6.5's in a 6x8 hole. Most will only have prefabs that accept 5.25's.

Building your own is as easy as tracing and cutting with a jig saw. It is very simple.


I wouldn't consider wasteing any money on those $10 "components"

I have heard some morel comps but not those so I won't comment on them. Overall, morel makes some very nice equipment.

I have installed numberous sets of CDT comps and have only been let down when they are not given enough power. Those EF's will be happy with about 150 watts rms per channel, and the midbass will suffer if you put anything less through them.

If you are stuck on getting a DVD player, and want something high quality, you should step up to something from eclipse like the AVN-5500 or one of the newer models. Eclipse owns pioneer when it comes to sound quality.

 

Agreed on tracing and using a jigsaw for the plate.

As for the $10 components, you don't have to buy them--I don't care. You're welcome to think they're garbage, too (again, I don't care). I know they're not, so I offered them as a cheap option to consider. If he doesn't want to consider them, then by all means, that's fine, too.

If you have a respect for quality equipment, you should know better to slam things without hearing them, but that's fine. It really makes no difference to me.

The components he's been looking at are all quality components. The set that I was most pleased with was my set of Alpine Type-X SPX-177R's. I believe they're Scanspeak drivers, and they're very smooth.

-Jordan

 

I'm not dissing your recomendation, but you need to compare apples to apples. If someone says they have $200 to spend on speakers why recommend some $10 speakers that will not perform on par with $200 components.

If someone says "I want to spend as little as possible and get the best sound" those are perfect speakers.I have heard a lot of speakers and the alpine type X is the only readily availalbe apline drivers, speakers or subs, that I would consider buying. I would buy the F!'s but I don't have 7 grand. Have you ever heard a set of CDT components? They will be very very difficult to beat for the money.

This guy already has a decent entry setup. If he gets rid of the rears and replaces the front with a nice set of comps he will be light years ahead of where he now. The $10 speakers look more like a side step and not a drastic improvment. Again, I'm not doubting those speakers are great for the money, I just think for a $200 budget he can do much, much better.

 

I disagree that they won't compete with $200 components, but whatever--I never asked for your approval.

My EF61-CF's were $199 from thezeb.com (when it existed) and my Alpine Type-X components were a hair over that, I believe. IMO, you can't get better components (than the Type-X components) for under $200.

That being said, I'm not let down in performance with the plate components vs. the Type-X components in any region other than midbass, and I attribute a lot of that to the fact that the plate components only have a 5.25" driver.

Anyway, as I've said multiple times, I don't expect him to take my suggestion on the plate components. If he tries them and likes them, then neat, he got a solid set of components for $10. If he refuses to try them, that's fine as well.

I've got a single pair in my Expedition with just 50W on each driver and they easily keep up (and blend well) with my sub stage, which consists of an 1050W (Arc Audio) amplifier and a Digital Designs 9515f 15" sub in a 4.5cuft box vented at 40hz..

-Jordan

 

Then again, if you don't have four channels of amplification, I wouldn't even bother. I haven't been overly thrilled with the plates when I've run them in a 2ch setup (probably more of an issue with not being able to tweak the crossover points to where I want them). However, I love them when I'm running them as 3ways off of my Alpine CDA-7998 (CDA-7897 in the Mustang).

Just my opinion, which is apparently worth squa-*****.

-Jordan

 

I purchased my HD-62Cf's from the zeb as well. How much power were you running to the cdt's? They are very power hungry. I sending around 200 watts rms a channel to mine and that was a big improvemt from 75 watts. With under around 150 most CDT comps seem to lack some midbass.

The problem you will have at this site is even with my approval (you seem knowledgeable which is rare for a new person here) you will have some idiot that will come in and tell a person that the apline type R they purchased at best buy is the second best sub in the world to the W7. You and I would both agree that it is completely incorrect.

I'm getting more curious about these $10 comps. Most of the reviews on partsexpress seem to be from people replacing stock drivers with headunit power and saying how great they sound. If the only difference you can hear is in the midbass, then I might have to go out and buy some. I'm assuming those comps are only in the fron of course....

 

I'm not even sure what amplifier I had powering my EF's, but I probably wasn't giving them enough power. I think mine were supposedly 130W RMS. They weren't bad, but my Alpine X's blew them away, IMO. Then again, the shop that installed my EF's just shoved the 6.5" driver in the stock 6x8 slot without making a plate. It was gorgeous. I remember asking for a few weeks after having that done: "WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE DRIVERS AND WHY DO I HAVE NO MIDBASS?!?!?!?!?!?!"

Heh, it's clear why I had no midbass, but even after I built some plates, there was still something to be desired. That was years ago, though, so I can't even recall what headunit or amp I was using.

As for being knowledgeable, I've spent a lot of money on car audio over the years and I've bought a lot of junk, as well as some pretty nice stuff. I by no means consider myself a "car audio guru" or anything even close (I'm not).

The plates are very articulate from 100hz and up, IMO, but much below, they leave a bit to be desired. They're 5.25" mids, so I don't expect them to do well in the lower midbass regions. If you give them clean power, you should find that they're quite nice and that the $10 price tag is an absolute joke. Note: I jumped on them and bought 25 pairs when the prices dropped to $2.50 per speaker. The next day, they were back up to $5 per speaker again. I still have three unopened boxes (something like 20 pairs) in my garage, and I have no intentions of getting rid of them any time soon. I won't go out on a limb and say they'll compete with some uber high-dollar stuff (I'm talking components well over $200), because that's just stupid, but they've impressed me almost as much as every set of components I've ever owned, sans midbass. *shrug*

Sorry for hijacking your thread, djmac. It wasn't my intention.

-Jordan

 

All this leaves me wondering why he should buy this plate comps if there is going to be sub par mid bass? I mean he will be running subs which i would assume he will pass around 70 Hz,and if the plates are good to "around" 100 Hz, are you suggesting to him to go with a 3 way setup of some kind? Just trying to get some clarity from what i have read. Thanks KSU.

 

I'm running the plate components and my sub--that's it.

My sub is lowpassed at 80hz, the mids are 100-4000hz, and the tweets are 4000hz on up.

The plates would probably be great in a 3way setup, but they don't need to be..

-Jordan

 

FWIW, I highpassed my plate components at 50hz/12dB per octave earlier and they sounded great with all music besides rap. When I played rap, it was a bit more than they really wanted to do, though. They do fine as midbass/midrange drivers with low power, but they shine the most when they're highpassed at 100hz or higher.

-Jordan