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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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detergents in the oil help break down engine buildup and sludge. If you let it sit in a dirty pan, it will do its job while its stored and losses its effectiveness over time..
It is obvious you believe that Nick. I am just wondering where you got that information. It would be a good inclusion in the FAQ. So, please furnish some documentation as to the fact that oil additives break down when sitting in dirty oil while the car is in storage.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Use synthetics. You'll have fewer storage issues. Conventional oils will deteriorate over time (hence the 3 months in the change interval suggestion). Synthetics will hold together much better. BTW, it isn't the oil itself, it's the interaction with the atmosphere and metals in the engine.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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I dont have and physical documentation of this that I can share. Last week I attended a seminar for local businessed and auto techs to help boost business sells and promote services for the customer. The seminar was hosted by Mighty products and thye benefit by having their products sold. I wish I still had his name and address, but we spoke to the head guy of Mighty's chemicle products for roughly 2 hours about their line up. There were alot of facts that were presented to us, and this is just one I remembered.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Ok, well you were given a line of BS.
Sales companies tend to do that to promote their snake oil products.
And, theyconvince their salesmen that what they purport as beinggospil is actually the truth.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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lol, well Im sure he was pulling some tricks to make himself look better. They did do some demonstrations though that were very impressive. Mighty makes an intake cleaner than sprays into your intake and totally cleans out everything of carbon buildup. He had some crapped up spark plugs sitting in the Mighty stuff and some in Justice Brothers and at the end, the Mighty's were brand new looking and the JB's were still nasty looking..
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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detergents in the oil help break down engine buildup and sludge. If you let it sit in a dirty pan, it will do its job while its stored and losses its effectiveness over time..
Let's get back to this statement. How do detergents break down when sitting in the oil pan when the car is stored? I am not impressed with the snake oil treatment.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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The additives are usually broken down by heat and wear on the oil. The only other issue will be the cleaners which may go in time if they have something to attack. The adheision properties of a true synthetic are much better (stay away from the cracked dyno/synthtics and blends). Whats in "STP" that makes it stick and slick? Gez, I wonder. Save your money. Most studies show that most of these additives are a waist unless you have a very bad engine and you want to pass it off as good with quick fix. Condensation can be a problem not only for the engine as well for the whole car. The warm engine will generate condensation with air tempature changes provided the humidity is high enough.Normally, all corrosion all but stops when humidity levels mantained between 40 and 60 %. Less than 40% will promote dryrot with rubber and plastics and over 60% the ole FeO2 starts. I would think before you store your car, start it up and make sure to bring it up to operating tempature, this willremove any mosture that may be present. And if you really want to protect your baby, install a dehumidifer, a Desiccant type or a Refrigatetype,the later will need a"hot jet" defrost feature if the storage tempaturewill go below 38 or 40F. Either will cost pennys a day to operate
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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stp is fine dude, its like oil just REALLY thick. lucas is very good too because like STP, it doesnt have all those crazy hoopajoop additives in it. this is why i said slick50/greased lightning are bad. all that teflon coating crap and the rest is disaster for your smaller oil galleys. all it does is clog everything up.

im using pennzoil synthetic in my 06 GT. yes it is hydrocracked but its certainly better than regular dino oil which (lets face it) will keep a modern engine running until the rest of the car is ready to fall apart.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Thats funny, whywere they, and most of the others, "Targets" of the Federal Trade Commission for misleading the consumer. Ans ordered to pay healthy fines. Hmmmmmm.................And why hasn't "Big Oil" took a bite of this market? Maybe they don't want the FTC knocking on their door.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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stp and lucas were never targets of anybody. hell stp has been around for what? 40 or 50 years now or some crap? they dont have wild and crazy claims about how they do all this spectacular stuff. it IS widely known that stuff like that will do a few things.

1) boost oil pressure if you have loose tolerances due to wear
2) reduce smoking/oil burning if your rings are wore out
3) keep everything lubed to prevent dry starts because its thick and doesnt all run down to the pan

no snake oil crap, no fancy bonding with the metal at some molecular level type of crap - its just thick *** oil...... and thats why i have used it and would use it again.

seriously, research what your ranting about before you lump all things together. STP and Slick 50 are two TOTALLY different things
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