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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Is there a roll cage that can be bolted in easily just before you go auto crossing?...
I did a Google search for "Bolt in Roll Bars Mustang" and auto power keeps coming up. If you call there and ask, Rick White (Owner) might be able to tell you if such an item exists. He actually designed the cage for the 65 & 66 Mustangs from my car so he might be able to justify a new product if nothing exists and there is enough demand for it.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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There's a danger of flipping in cone *******....I mean auto crossing? [sm=smiley36.gif]
Actually, there is . . . . in certain cars, anyway.

But fortunately, it's a rare occurrence. Some years ago, a local driver in a Philly area event rolled a certain narrowish FWD car that has a known tendency to lift the inside rear wheel when he got it all crossed up trying to salvage a bad run. Got his arm broke when it went out the window, IIRC.

Even mythumbnail car is getting pretty light on the inside two on a track width that's four inches or so wider than that of a '66. Although it's not likely to go much further on clear pavement, a pothole or bad rut could make things, ummm, exciting.

If you're serious enough about auto-X to be considering a cage, you need to investigate the rules, as there are a few requirements that may not be obvious. Removable roll bars are mentioned in the Solo rules (SCCA) but cages appear to fall back on the GCR's (rules for wheel to wheel competition). Some classes require bolt-in, others permit weld-in. Etc.

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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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what about this http://www.mustangsplus.com/Merchant...gory_Code=roll
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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what about this http://www.mustangsplus.com/Merchant...gory_Code=roll
Doesn't look like a quick bolt in to me. Personally, I think you guys are nuts for using a perfectly good classic mustang for auto cross, when you could get an old FE motored Ford for a bunch less and not tear up a classic. Rip out the entire enterior, tub the rear quarters. put some wide assed tires on there and put in a permanent roll cage and only auto cross it. No need for insurance or tags.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Call Autopower. He actually designed his cage from my 66. If he has enough demand for one, he might just design you one. I know he has the dimensions.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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what about this http://www.mustangsplus.com/Merchant...gory_Code=roll
Doesn't look like a quick bolt in to me. Personally, I think you guys are nuts for using a perfectly good classic mustang for auto cross, when you could get an old FE motored Ford for a bunch less and not tear up a classic. Rip out the entire enterior, tub the rear quarters. put some wide assed tires on there and put in a permanent roll cage and only auto cross it. No need for insurance or tags.
As a bolt-it-in-once-and-leave-it-there, or remove/replace for extensive interior reworking, it probably works. But I wouldn't think for an instant about swapping it in and out on any regular basis (and I used to swap my alignment back and forth between street and competition settings at each and every event in my thumbnail car in my previous post).

Actually, the classic Mustangs look like they'd offer a weight distribution advantage over many of its potential competition. There might even be a couple more potential advantages. Personally, I'd go nuts if I couldn't legally drive the hottest car in the stable any time and any placeI wanted to.

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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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I removed your double post. JamesW must be out figuring out how to mod his 65 more. Nah, just kidding. JamesW is a good guy, he just has a bastard for for a 65 Mustang.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Jegs has an interesting set-up in their catalog I found. They have 4, 8, 10 and 12 point set-ups. Anyone use one? The cost is pretty compelling. Although I understand that this may not be the place to save a buck.

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