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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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honestly Mccain should have been the president over bush last election. i really dont think he would have gone in to iraq. but i feel all they he now will stay in iraq since we are already there, same with Osama and Billiary. most economic policy problems arise the next 2 terms after the current pres leaves office. a lot of our current economic probles are from the clinton adminastration
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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I think it would be even more impressive to hear you point out a couple ways in which the Bush Administration has helped to improve our country.
Unemployment has been at an all time low, the lowest since the 50's.
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Allright fellas, I respect y'all for standing up for your prez. It could be called brave or foolish, and I won't make that judgment.
Sorry for bringing politics into the forums. I spend far too much of my time reading articles about politics and the ins and outs of our economy to carry on an argument about Bush and his brilliant leadership. The IQ comment was really interesting, I would love to see that in print...

Like it or not, Bush policies have had a direct impact on every facet of the economy, including the price of gasoline. I assume most of you realize that there is not a guy in the sky who is deciding the price of gasoline... it is a direct result of record oil prices which have skyrocketed due to the weak dollar (BTW, Bush policies for a "strong economy" support the weak dollar... this is not opinion but common knowledge...look it up.) Put it all together. It IS Bush's fault. But that is only the beginning.

If you are not concerned about the quality of public education in America, you don't have kids.
If you are not concerned about the infrastructure, I can only assume you live on a dirt road and work on a farm.
Bush Co's environmental record is horrible... I know our cars are gas guzzlers but I would challenge you to look into Bush's track record, if you care.
The Fed policy on manipulating the economy for the past 8 years or more has been reckless at best, will be disastrous at worst.
And for the Vets, here is a new story about how well they are looking out for you...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNQK109AA7.DTL
If you won't take the time to read the article (I don't blame you...) Here is a quote from the article: "...veterans are committing suicide at the rate of 18 a day - a number acknowledged by a VA official in a Dec. 15 e-mail - and the agency's backlog of disability claims now exceeds 650,000, an increase of 200,000 since the Iraq war started in 2003."

I had no idea that there was such a heavy dose of blind neoconservatism in this forum but I guess it makes sense.

TexasAx, I agree with you but.... the problem with supply and demand comes when the "Supply" is deliberately manipulated to keep the "Demand" elevated in the interest of obscene corporate profits at the expense of the little people. The Big Oil companies are not operating like a business but more like a government agency with no oversight. They have the politicians in their pocket and no one has the ***** to challenge them. If they were paying me off, I wouldn't complain either.

How I feel is nothing personal with any of you and I would appreciate if you didn't make it personal with me. The "idiots" comment isn't even worth responding to. I'm not accustomed to having anyone disagree with me about the failed politics of Bush Co... The facts and the numbers speak for themselves. As I have found in the past, trying to convince a bleeding heart conservative to see the big picture and consider the facts is like trying to extract oil from a rock. You believe what you believe and nothing will change that. But that is another subject altogether!

Cheers all and God Bless America... with a new president ASAP.
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Unemployment has been at an all time low, the lowest since the 50's.
I have no idea where you are getting your information because even the Fed isn't painting that rosy of a picture. See the following.
TAKEN FROM THE BUREAU OF LABOR .GOV WEBSITE: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION: MARCH 2008

The unemployment rate rose from 4.8 to 5.1 percent in March, and nonfarm
payroll employment continued to trend down (-80,000), the Bureau of Labor
Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Over the past
3 months, payroll employment has declined by 232,000. In March, employment
continued to fall in construction, manufacturing, and employment services,
while health care, food services, and mining added jobs. Average hourly
earnings rose by 5 cents, or 0.3 percent, over the month.

Unemployment (Household Survey Data)

The number of unemployed persons increased by 434,000 to 7.8 million in
March, and the unemployment rate rose by 0.3 percentage point to 5.1 per-
cent. Since March 2007, the number of unemployed persons has increased by
1.1 million, and the unemployment rate has risen by 0.7 percentage point.
(See table A-1.)
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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I'm going to try my hardest to make this my last contribution to this thread.
well, at least you made it 5 minutes
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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$3.77 a gallon for 87 octane in West Palm Beach..... $4.25 for diesel. No debate. It sucks.
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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San Francisco yesterday.
Oil hit another record. Could $5.00/gallon be in the near future???
Not to beat a dead horse, but I am still looking for one person who will admit voting for Bush in 2004... I won't come down on you, but I just want to hear from ONE person who will admit it.


I voted for Bush in 2004 AND 2000. And I'd vote for him again since he was clearly a better candidate than either Gore or Kerry.

Why are you complaining about the cost of gasoline? The USA has the cheapest gas in the developed world. Have you checked thegas prices in Japan, Britain, France or Germany? Contrary to public perception, the price of a gallon of gas is not set by the oil companies. It is set by the world market.

Gasoline costs a lot because there is a high demand for it. I commute over 130 miles a day to work everyday. A very large proportion of the vehicles on the California freeway with me on my commute are gas guzzling pickups and full size SUVs. They go blowing by me at 85 mph and they're probably getting 10 mpg. They also only have ONE person in the vehicle--the driver.

I drive a Honda Fit and going 65 mph I get 43 mpg. Going 70 mph, I'll still get 40 mpg. Nobody put a gun to the SUV drivers' head and forced them to buy a gas guzzling tank. If Americans were all driving more fuel efficient vehicles, then we would be consuming less gas and the demand would be lower. What would that do to the price of gas?

Oh, and don't accuse me of being a GREENenvironmentalfascistcar hating terrorist. I'm restoring my 289 1968 notchback and my goal is to go fast, not get good mileage. However, I'm not so stupid as to buy a gas guzzling monster to commute to work everyday.

The Democrats want to stop oil exploration on US soil and off our shores. The Dems and the environmentalists want to decrease energy consumption by driving up the cost of energy. So don't blame Bush for the present situation. If "Global Warming Gore" won the election, gas would already be at $5 a gallon.

Oh, BTW, the war in the Iraq is all about oil. Without cheap Middle East oil our economy would crumble. And if you believe that stability was defined bySaddam Hussein, you are naive and too young.
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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I didn't specify THIS month or LAST month. You said under the Bush admin....
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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I guess threads like this are supposed to make me wish gas prices were lower. Or maybe they are inted to make me wish I didn't vote for Bush (twice). The truth is, threads like this just make me wish California would just hurry up and fall off into the ocean.
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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My DD beater died on the 7th. It was getting the worst MPG it had ever gotten at 45mpg...



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