Not sure what you are asking???

You buy the lifters and cam separately but the cam should be a solid flat lifter cam if you are going to use solid flat lifters.

 

carb:

http://www.proformparts.com/mistore/...pany_id=100719

or

http://www.proformparts.com/mistore/...pany_id=100719

depending on weather or not you want a choke.

cam:

stick with the voodoo or the z-series that have been already discussed.



it should be noted that racin talked with me via IM this afternoon and due to the cost of custom made pistons is looking into a 331 stroker kit with C head pistons for like 1200 bucks. honestly, i think this would be an awesome route to go as the larger displacement motor will take better advantage of even the "smaller" port aussie heads, and would make either of the two cams choosen seem a little less radical.

 

I agree, to an extent. With a 331 the larger cams will seem more tame, although I'd recommend a slightly smaller cam than the aforementioned voodoo with the stroker kit. I'm pretty happy with my Comp Cams Magnum 280H (which is hydraulic) in my 331, and it would allow him to run 3.55's. The Magnum 292H would be another, more aggressive option. Both would still be really loud and annoying for 1200 miles, but I'm going to be putting ~600mi on my car in the next month and I'll survive. Granted, I can do it at 70+ with my 3.25's, but there aren't that many roads outside of CA that you can drive that fast without worrying about tickets.

 

yeah, i beleive i am going to go with the 331 stroker. for the price of aftermarket pistons, crank, and rings, bearings etc etc. plus balancing it wont be all the much more for the stroker kit that can handle more power, and bring the power band down the rpm range a bit...

 

I'm absolutely in agreement with Starfury on cam selection. I have always been fascinated with the Boss 302 and the Clevor. I dinked around with Desktop Dyno last night and came even more convinced that the OP was suggesting too much cam. Even with the stroker, it will be too much cam.

I'm still intrigued by this 1,200 mile trip at 3,500 to 4,000 RPM cruise.

BTW, I haven't reread the entire thread, but I'm sure that someone has explained to the original poster that you can't put mechanical lifters on a hydraulic cam. If he wants to go mechanical, he needs to buy the mechanical cam AND the associated valvetrain parts.

 

I installed desktop dyno 2000 and ran some numbers. All figures are with the 331, a compression ratio of 9.5:1 (guessing), flow numbers from a 351C 2V head (same ports as the Aussie heads), and a 650 carb.

The Performer RPM intake for the clevor has a notched divider so IMO its kinda in between a dual and single plane design, and he mentioned making header which means they may be small or large tube. Because of this I ran numbers both ways.

Comp Magnum 292H:
Dual plane Intake and Small Tube Headers: 390 HP @ 6500, 352 Torque @ 5000
Single plane Intake and Large Tube Headers: 457 HP @ 7000, 381 Torque @ 5500

Lunati Voodoo Cam:
Dual plane Intake and Small Tube Headers: 416 HP @ 6500, 374 Torque @ 5000
Single plane Intake and Large Tube Headers: 474 HP @ 6500, 405 Torque @ 5500

Comp Magnum 280H:
Dual plane Intake and Small Tube Headers: 422 HP @ 7000/7500, 387 Torque @ 5000
Single plane Intake and Large Tube Headers: 484 HP @ 7000, 415 Torque @ 5500

Z-Series (Z-274-2) Crane Cam:
Dual Plane Intake, Small Tube Headers: 429 HP @ 6500, 394 torque @ 5000
Single Plane Intake, Large Tube Headers: 487 HP @ 6500/7000, 426 torque @ 5500


Here's the Crane Cam listing (again):

http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?s...22&lvl=2&prt=5

So, splitting the different between numbers, I'd say the Z series would give him a 450 HP @ 6500 RPM motor with 410 ft/lbs of Torque @ 5250 RPM. Just as good as many aftermarket 302 heads would perform, and this is definitely a much cooler combination

 

My77, I think he should stay away from hydraulic cams give the rpms he will be spinning, but I ran the numbers anyway b/c they looked very high to me.

When I ran the numbers through Desktop Dyno, given a 331 stroker, 650cfm, dual plane std flow intake, small tube headers, 9.5 CR, and flow numbers for Aussie heads, I got:

Comp 280H: 329hp@5000 & 373ft*lbs@4000
Comp 292H: 337hp@5500 & 362ft*lbs@4500
Crane Z-274-2: 330hp@5000 & 378@4000

What is the grind number on the voodoo cam? I see 6 different Lunati Voodoo cams on their website for this motor.

Again, either you or I have some errors. What flow numbers and specs are you using for the heads. I am using:
2.04 Intake Valve
1.67 Exhaust

Lift I E
100 59 44
200 112 79
300 156 109
400 178 130
500 187 153
600 191 172

I got those numbers from: http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tablehdc.htm#Ford

I am not calling you out or calling you a liar, just wanting to get the guy accurate numbers.

 

Wow, more power with the 280H than the 292H? Interesting. What's the torque curve look like on that z-cam compared to the 280H?

I'd be very tempted to run a single plane on that motor. It's not going to be making power under 2k anyway, and it's not like he's driving it every day.

 

A couple of other things with respect to DD:

You would NEVER run big tube headers on this motor.

Section from the DD manual:
Note About Tubing Sizes For All Header Choices: The following rules of thumb
give approximations of tubing diameters used by the simulation: Headers with tubes
that measure 95% to 105% of the exhaust-valve diameter are considered “small”
for any particular engine; tubes that measure 120% to 140% of the exhaust-valve
diameter are “large” tube headers.

That means a standard 1 5/8 primary would be a small tube because the area of the tube is less than the exhaust port of the Aussie heads (1.84" x 1.38").

Also, I have found that the most accurate version of intake for the aftermarket intakes stuff we can get like Edelbrock, etc. is the std flow version. The max or high flow way inflate the numbers.

 

+1 on Urban Cowboy's post, in fact all of them in this thread!