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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stepman
I disagree...these are old cars. They may be capable of 14v but, that is not where they operate.
Originally Posted by Harris
Yeah, even with a brand new battery, alternator and regulator (you know, working ones) I've never gotten a reading of more than 12 and change.

The current regulator is brand new, but it is just a $15 four wire from advanced. Maybe I fried it somehow while i was fiddling with the alternator. Tomorrow morning I'll drive out to the NAPA and get an electronic regulator. I'll post as soon as I get some readings.

*Also* Are there any notorious weaknesses in that wiring harness I should be looking for?
You can disagree all you like, but the Factory Service Manual is on my side. My 66 produces 14.2V, which is actually toward the low end, but that big 289HP alternator pulley is working against me.

As for weaknesses, corrosion in the connectors is always a problem on older cars. Clean them with Brasso using Q-Tips and an old toothbrush, and grease them with silicone dialectric grease. This is the ONLY way to get the factory ammeter to work, by the way.


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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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I would put in a GM alternator with built in VR. All you have to do is grind down part of the case and it fits great!
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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That does sound mighty appealing. Do you have a part number? Wiring diagram? Can the grinding be done with a dremel?
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Yeah, the case is aluminum or some soft metal of the like. I would take your current alt. in and compare it to a few GM alts. as I can't remember what make it was for, but I remember it was the first time they had internal voltage regulators.
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Well, the NAPA regulator is in. No difference. The grounds are strong, but the one from the block to the firewall has dried and flaky insulation. Could this be the cause?
Old Jul 3, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Hopefully, the final post:

I was suspicious of those the wiring harness. I used a seam ripper from a sewing kit to do a few harnessectomies, ie I slit the outer wrapping of the harness to take a look at the condition of the wires inside. The only place the wire looked really bad was the top of the harness where it connected to the alternator, battery, etc. I cut off the top foot or so and spliced in shiny new wires, and viola! I'm back up and running. Its current;y operating at about 12.75/12.4.
Those numbers that 2+2 was throwing around made me realize that I must have "leaks" all over the system, so I think the next step or a re-wiring of everything in the engine compartment. I found some pre-assembled wiring harnesses here:

http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.co...sp?itemid=WG34

The harness for the dash is $500, which seems high, but the ones ill be dealing with only look like $95 + $15.

Many thanks to all of you who weighed in on this one. My main fear was that this would be some weird, pony-specific issue that I didn't know about.
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