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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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I will check the neutral safety switch. What do you mean it is misadjusted? How would i tell this or how can I adjust it? I will look at it tomorrow.

This problem is causing me to lose sleep
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Well, since you aren't sleeping....how'd the rewire go?

The NSS could be slightly off as it has slotted mounting holes to get it in the right position. It could think you are in R and not Park. This is dumb but, do your back up lights work? I can't remember how many wires there are to it, 4? There should be power for the B-U lights and a wire coming out to the B-U's. Then a wire for power when cranking, and one running to your starter sol.

You already found the one to the sol. so, you need to find the one from the igniton. It should only have power in start position(ignition). If you get that, you can run a jumper across the 2 and see if it cranks. (that will tell if the switch is bad) If you don't get power down there then, you need to trace it up to the ignition switch.

Another dumb question....have you tried cranking it with the shifter in neutral?
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Okay. By back up lights do you mean brake lights? If so then yes they work.
Also would the NSS being off cause me to not be able to get in park all the way? The NSS does have 4 wires. I will attempt to trace them in a little. The test for a bad switch will tell me if my NSS is bad or my ignition switch?

I am not really 100% sure which position is N because I am changing the gears by moving the lever at the transmission as I do not have my linkage in yet. My linkage is so loose that I took it off cause I am going to try and find a way to fix it.

Thanks again
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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By back up lights, I mean the ones on the back of car that are white. Not being able to get it properly in park is a problem. Try finding neutral and see if it works. By jumping the wires I mentioned it bypasses the NSS. That it the switch we are testing. You have to get it in park or neutral first though, that could be the whole problem.

If you put it in neutral, be sure to block the tires.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Hmm I see. Well I assume Park is the farthest back you can push the lever and that is where it is at. I tried pushing it forward all the way as well and that was not it either. One thing I did notice is that when I attempt to push it back all the way( towards the tail of the transmission) it will go slightly farther but not lock in. Maybe I need to ask someone with an automatic what position their lever is in when it is in park.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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If you have a stock transmission and everything, then Park should be the furthest toward the engine, then reverse and then neutral.

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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Well I put my shifter linkage on and park seems to be the farthest away from the engine meaning towards that back of the car.
Update: I decided to make the wires with splices one big wire so I cut at the furthest splice and bought wire and terminal ends. Now the wires only have 1 splice instead of a million. I put the car in what I believe to be neutral and put the key in and turned. I GOT A NOISE!!! The starter sounded like it was trying to engage but got that grinding noise almost as if the flywheel did not want to spin.
I assume this means my NSS needs to be adjusted but I have no idea how to do that. I will do some research. I guess this because like Stepman said to put it in Neutral and see what I get. I got the starter to engage in Neutral but not Park. Also when I try to start the car in Park the Brake System light in the dash comes on but not when it is in Neutral. I am still not getting full power to the coil either.
What could all this mean!?

Thank you for your patience Stepman.
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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O.K...that's a lot to cover, so hopefully I'll get all of it. First, your NSS seems to be ok. Get your voltmeter out and measure battery volts. If you have 12volts, hook the meter to the S wire like before. Put it somewhere that you can see it when turning the key. Then...

I would start with getting it to go easily and regularly into park. Block the front wheels and raise the back wheels off the ground. Next, pull the shifter into what you believe to be Park as you twist the driveshaft back and forth. You should feel it lock in when it gets there and shouldn't be able to twist the shaft anymore. Then, see if you have power to the S wire when you turn the key. If so, is it 12v?

Start with that, then we'll move on.

As for your brake light, is it on with the key in run or just when trying to crank?
Did you get the headlights working?
Alsso, with the key in run, put the trans in Rev. Do the back up lights come on?
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Haha wow so I did that and I got 9 volts now!!

Had the starter tested (and alternator too cause it was free) both are good.

I took off the starter and the inspection plate(?), the piece of metal that is at the bottom of the bell-housing where the flywheel is. I think my problem is that the flywheel will not turn at all. I could not get it to move and I was trying pretty hard. The spark plugs were in though so maybe that is why?? I am thinking the culprit is something non electrical. If I can not get the flywheel to turn what are the implications of that??

Also no headlights. I do not think I have enough power to turn them on without the motor running. When I put the trans in reverse the lights in the back do not come on unless I am pressing the brake. There are no whites that I could see when I walked around the back. Only red ones.
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Let's see...we got like 4 things going at once here. The back-up lights are down lower...in the valance.

The headlights should come on with the car off. Work the dimmer switch a few times and see if that helps.

See if you can put a socket on the front pulley and turn it.(15/16's) If you can't turn the flywheel, that's a major problem.

How many volts are in you battery?



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