I hate liars
For those who didn't see the first thread. I bought this car last week from fellow member WarrenW.
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...ake-parts.html
I fixed the brakes and ordered new tires. Yesterday took the wife and boy out to dinner with the in-laws and we had starting issues trying to come home. Had to bump start it after disconnecting the stater solenoid cause the car acted like it had a bad battery but continued to try and start after the key was removed from the ignition.
Got up this morning and was doing some searching on the issue and looked at Warrens past posts. Found these.....
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...just-died.html
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...-charging.html
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...tery-dies.html
Well to say the least he never did fix his wiring/charging issues and he never told me about them. So it looks like I'm going to be sending some quality time tracing/checking wires. Someone posted in one of the previous links that the guy that sold Warren this car just threw the wiring in to sell it and may have crossed some wires somewhere. I think he's right cause I had already found out that the lighting part was going to need some work.
I hate people who lie and omission to information is the same as lying. shame on you Warren.
Sorry just venting.
Anyone with wiring diagram links please post cause the ones I got kinda suck
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...ake-parts.html
I fixed the brakes and ordered new tires. Yesterday took the wife and boy out to dinner with the in-laws and we had starting issues trying to come home. Had to bump start it after disconnecting the stater solenoid cause the car acted like it had a bad battery but continued to try and start after the key was removed from the ignition.
Got up this morning and was doing some searching on the issue and looked at Warrens past posts. Found these.....
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...just-died.html
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...-charging.html
https://mustangforums.com/forum/clas...tery-dies.html
Well to say the least he never did fix his wiring/charging issues and he never told me about them. So it looks like I'm going to be sending some quality time tracing/checking wires. Someone posted in one of the previous links that the guy that sold Warren this car just threw the wiring in to sell it and may have crossed some wires somewhere. I think he's right cause I had already found out that the lighting part was going to need some work.
I hate people who lie and omission to information is the same as lying. shame on you Warren.
Sorry just venting.
Anyone with wiring diagram links please post cause the ones I got kinda suck
http://www.hammar.dyndns.org/wiring/1966/66ignit.jpg
Checking to see whether the voltage regulator or alternator are functioning is easy. Put your voltmeter on the car, and do full-field test. If the voltmeter shows 14V+, the alternator is OK.
Plan on doing these this morning.
When it comes to wiring gremlins, you are almost always going to come out ahead just starting from scratch... Replace everything with a Painless or similar kit. Save your sanity and probably a lot of time.
Collection of useful information for 66 Mustangs
1966 FACTORY MANUAL ONLINE:
http://www.scribd.com/people/documen...97-edze?page=1
GREAT COLLECTION OF INFORMATION ON MODIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT MUSTANGS:
http://mustangtechlinks.webs.com/
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATICS & INFORMATION:
Wire routing:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wiring/wiring1966.htm
Intrior gauges, wipers and lighting:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66inter1.jpg
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66inter.jpg
Instrument gauge panel:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66instr.jpg
Ignition, starting and charging:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66ignit.jpg
Exterior lighting, turn signals and horn:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66exter1.jpg
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66exter.jpg
Accesories:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66acces1.jpg
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66acces.jpg
Original Stereo wiring:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66stereo.jpg
TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION:
Good information and troubleshooting:
http://thecareandfeedingofponies.blo...1_archive.html
1966 FACTORY MANUAL ONLINE:
http://www.scribd.com/people/documen...97-edze?page=1
GREAT COLLECTION OF INFORMATION ON MODIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT MUSTANGS:
http://mustangtechlinks.webs.com/
ELECTRICAL SCHEMATICS & INFORMATION:
Wire routing:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wiring/wiring1966.htm
Intrior gauges, wipers and lighting:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66inter1.jpg
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66inter.jpg
Instrument gauge panel:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66instr.jpg
Ignition, starting and charging:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66ignit.jpg
Exterior lighting, turn signals and horn:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66exter1.jpg
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66exter.jpg
Accesories:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66acces1.jpg
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...66/66acces.jpg
Original Stereo wiring:
http://hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/wi...6/66stereo.jpg
TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION:
Good information and troubleshooting:
http://thecareandfeedingofponies.blo...1_archive.html
I would pick up a spare solenoid, as 2+2GT mentioned a bad solenoid can do this on/off. I had a new one do it to me, worked fine for a period and then the dreaded key out continues to crank. I replaced the ign. switch first and still had the cont. start. Swapped out the new solenoid for a BWD/Standard ign. solenoid and problem fixed.
It does sound like you've got wiring issues to address but as mentioned wiring either works or not, you can have loose wires that may be grounding intermittently but switches can work/not intermittently more often. I'd have a spare solenoid handy, not that $ @~$10.
Ron above has overloaded you with info!!
Jon
It does sound like you've got wiring issues to address but as mentioned wiring either works or not, you can have loose wires that may be grounding intermittently but switches can work/not intermittently more often. I'd have a spare solenoid handy, not that $ @~$10.
Ron above has overloaded you with info!!
Jon
It has a painless kit in it but I can't get the manual to come up off their site. Anyone have this saved? After doing to tracing I deterimed that have a short somewhere in the front headlight/parking/turn signal harness.
That explains a lot. I have never been a fan, not because of Painless but more like the "do it yourself project kit" aspect of their product. Installer skill is a big factor.
The OEM style wiring from Alloy Metal is completely plug-and-play, identical to the original wiring. You'd have to work really hard to screw that up.
The OEM style wiring from Alloy Metal is completely plug-and-play, identical to the original wiring. You'd have to work really hard to screw that up.
Last edited by 2+2GT; May 23, 2010 at 01:14 PM.


