Just because you might be able to get away with it doesn't make it right. It cheapens the entire market of classic cars .....

 

I can't see how anyone can condone breaking the law. Yea it's all good until you're in front to of the judge facing charges. The "value" you may have increased the value of your car will be long gone in lawyers fees. Also, next time you look for a job remember most companies do background checks and with the current economic climate even the question of impropriety will eliminate you from consideration. I've seen candidates eliminated for much less. I saw a very qualified candidate eliminated from consideration, the charge was making a false 911 call after a domestic dispute. For the younger guys, consider that this will stay with you for life.

When you want to switch a vin consider the fact you will be caught (even if you're not consider that you will be), ask yourself "is is really worth it?"

 

BINGO!!!

 

I think this thread should be locked for obvious reasons

 

lol a simple question turned into a huge thread. I guess it was good i asked before i went doing something i didnt know much about and would regret after. Ill just be holding onto the car unless someone want to purchase it whole. thanks for the advise guys

 

I'm amazed this discussion has gone on this far. My guess is it's illegal in every state and, if not, it's certainly immoral. The fact that you can probably get away with it doesn't make it right. If someone needs a VIN, go to your local DMV and get one. Sure it lowers the value but anyone who wants to illegally attach a VIN (or sell one for that purpose) so that they can put more money in their pocket by duping some unsuspecting buyer is someone who doesn't care about their own integrity or that of classic Mustangs.

 

Now we are getting into morals? I didn't see anyone talking about dupping unsuspecting buyers. I was talking about what is refered to as a rebody. It turned very quickly into stolen cars and VIN swapping. Seems like a lot of folks want to get on their high horse and everyone that does it must be the devil and out to make the all mighty dollar. Really is that what this thread is about? Or is it about what Roka should do about the offer he recieved for the VIN numbers and the title to his wrecked fastback. I offered ideas for that. You can take them or not, I don't care.

 

It wouldn't be this immediate transaction where anybody is getting 'duped', but a later one could be. My questions as the potential seller of only a VIN would be "If they've got a car, why don't they have its VIN?", and If they don't have a car, why would they want only my VIN and not the car/wreck that it belongs to?".

Given the capricious and arbitrary conclusions that some legal procedures ultimately reach, I wouldn't want to be involved even peripherally in something as "fuzzy" as this.

I don't think 'morals' is quite the word you're looking for here. Ethics, maybe. Keep in mind that that's part of what defines your reputation, which is sort of like an unwritten credit score for your interactions with others.


Norm

 

Check your local Craig's list or ebay and see how many classic mustang are up there for sale with no title. I'm always amazed at how many there are. The folks trying to sell them seem to think that getting a new title from the DMV is no big deal. I'm here to tell you it is a royal Pain in the butt if not impossible. If it is so easy to do I personnaly think the seller should do it. They never seem to be willing to do it.

I guess the bottom line is, if you want the VIN's and title you have to be willing to buy what is left of the car. I can't see how anyone would have a problem with that.

 

you build the car, submit the paperwork to the state, they send someone out to inspect it and then they assign a vin # to the car or use teh dynacorn vin.


its not different then when building a motorcycle from scratch. the frame is sold with a title & VIN stamped in it, but you still have to have it inspected before you can title it with the state & put a plate on it.