selling/purchasing vin
2nd Gear Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 194
From: California
Tilley, it is not that I don't believe you but if you are going to make statement like you just made and expect me to buy what you are saying then it would help to site the law or statue that applies. Are you CHP? Local police? A properly changed VIN will not be detectable by a local cop, CHP of even an avid collector. Are you saying that the VIN on the car and the VIN on the registration don't match? Even I could catch someone like that but that is not what we are talking about. And what of this inspection you speak of, inspection by whom? There are no inspections required in California unless the car is brought in from out of state. That is standard in most states.
California Vehicle Code 10750:
10750. (a) No person shall intentionally deface, destroy, or alter
the motor number, other distinguishing number, or identification mark
of a vehicle required or employed for registration purposes without
written authorization from the department, nor shall any person place
or stamp any serial, motor, or other number or mark upon a vehicle,
except one assigned thereto by the department.
When I get the VIN for the citation, I look at the VIN on the left side of the front dash. It is extremely hard to replace a VIN plate, including the rivots, to look original. We are talking about vehicles that are at least 40 years or older. I see a new VIN plate OR rivots that do not look 40+ years old, then I look harder at the car.
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Joined: Nov 2008
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From: cyprus
....if i was looking at a car that is 40+ yrs old and restored nicely, I would inspect the car quite nicely, in and out, over and under, check the motor and see what mods have been done, take a few notes and give the guy a pat on the back and say nice work and maybe even ask to give a nice burn out while pulling out!
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From: Texas Hill Country
Riddle me this batman. I have a junk fastback. Whether it is wrecked, rusted to pieces, or whatever. I buy a rebody from Dynacorn. How, legally, am I supposed to get my VIN onto the new body? You hear a lot about rebody, but if you read my state's info from Dynacorn, it sounds like you have to re-VIN the car and it would be titled as a custom kit car 2011. I am not judging, but I am curious. I would love to buy a junk fastback, change the vin to a dynacorn body and race it as a 1967, 68, 69, or 70 depending so I do not cut up a good project car. I cannot find any definitive information on this and it sounds like most of us cannot either given all the different opinions in this topic.
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 426
From: MN
Riddle me this batman. I have a junk fastback. Whether it is wrecked, rusted to pieces, or whatever. I buy a rebody from Dynacorn. How, legally, am I supposed to get my VIN onto the new body? You hear a lot about rebody, but if you read my state's info from Dynacorn, it sounds like you have to re-VIN the car and it would be titled as a custom kit car 2011. I am not judging, but I am curious. I would love to buy a junk fastback, change the vin to a dynacorn body and race it as a 1967, 68, 69, or 70 depending so I do not cut up a good project car. I cannot find any definitive information on this and it sounds like most of us cannot either given all the different opinions in this topic.
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 194
From: California
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What part of "felony" don't you guys get?
You can do whatever you want to do, but I have arrested numerous people because of this. These cars are collectors items and will eventually have to bear some type of inspection. When I write a ticket I have to write down the vin, and I always check it with the vehicle because I am aware of people chopping up these cars with stolen parts.
Jails are full of stupid people who do stupid stuff. Do what you want.
You can do whatever you want to do, but I have arrested numerous people because of this. These cars are collectors items and will eventually have to bear some type of inspection. When I write a ticket I have to write down the vin, and I always check it with the vehicle because I am aware of people chopping up these cars with stolen parts.
Jails are full of stupid people who do stupid stuff. Do what you want.
( Im not talking beaters either. Decked out fully restored head turners.)
Im sure the answer is ZERO to ONE. The odds of the average jo ticket writer knowing how to spot a false vin on his beat will be very slim to none when it comes to classics.
Modern 1995+ vehicles I will agree with you but classics is much harder since door tags can be bought and punched as well.