I'm afraid that I do not see any completely legitimate point here. If the K-code is truly beyond anybody's ability to restore, it's gone.


I see no problem at all with swiping the mechanical bits off the K-code and bolting them onto the sixxer and leaving the chassis with its original sixxer VIN. You have a car that you have mechanically rebuilt and to some extent upgraded, but whose chassis remains traceable back to its original production.


Norm

 

I guess the question then becomes, how much can I replace on my original car and it still be the original car? What is the difference between replacing every panel on the car or taking a different car and replacing the whole car? The donor car would be considered a used replacement part, albeit a really big part. If you consider a dynacorn body a replacment part why can't you use another used body for a replacement part? The Shelby registry recognizes rebodied cars. Rebodied cars are sold at Barrett Jackson.

So, I just put a fastback roof on a coupe body and will be using the coupe VIN so I will sell it as a coupe to fastback conversion. If I had the Fastback VIN and used it would it be considered a coupe with a fastback roof or a fastback with a coupe chasis?

I have clipped 4 cars in my life. All have been coupes that have been punched hard in the back and a fastback rear has been grafted on. So how much of the car can be replaced and still be the original car? As these cars get more scarce this question will come up more and more. I saw Chip Foose do a fastback on TV that had an unusable front frame section. They found a donor coupe and grafted the coupe onto the fastback from the firewall forward. They must have changes the VIN's over but nothing was said on TV about that. For those that don't believe that you can change VIN's I would say you are watching too many cop shows on TV.

 

I would be interested to hear what 2+2 has to say about this subject. Are you out there?

 

What part of "felony" don't you guys get?

You can do whatever you want to do, but I have arrested numerous people because of this. These cars are collectors items and will eventually have to bear some type of inspection. When I write a ticket I have to write down the vin, and I always check it with the vehicle because I am aware of people chopping up these cars with stolen parts.

Jails are full of stupid people who do stupid stuff. Do what you want.

 

im not doing any of that. i own a WRECKED fastback, beyond repairable! Trust me this thing is gone!! Anyway I'm parting the car and there's nothing left on it (like a bone with not meat). I had a guy who came down and wanted to purchase the numbers, so here I am asking questions. What can I do? I have no use for the car anymore, so what are my options?

 

In life i have learned to take what you can get.........besides, if someone has same model and needs some numbers to make it legal, whats the harm there.... no one gets hurt, you make a few bucks, he gets a registered car....its a win win situation.

 

If you have the vins and want to swap them do it. I would not say anything to anyone tho, and probably would not have made this post. I would not try to sell the title and vins, might get alot of attention from people you dont want. Also if you use the vins i would make sure you know for 100% the car was crushed if you question it i wouldnt. Also any dates stamped on anything i would make sure are within reason to the date on the title.

 

Tilley, it is not that I don't believe you but if you are going to make statement like you just made and expect me to buy what you are saying then it would help to site the law or statue that applies. Are you CHP? Local police? A properly changed VIN will not be detectable by a local cop, CHP of even an avid collector. Are you saying that the VIN on the car and the VIN on the registration don't match? Even I could catch someone like that but that is not what we are talking about. And what of this inspection you speak of, inspection by whom? There are no inspections required in California unless the car is brought in from out of state. That is standard in most states.

What about rebodying. It is getting to be a common practice and you are saying that it is illegal.

Roka, as far as your options I would sell the title and VIN's with a bill of sale to the guy stating that you sold him the whole car. Part out the rest of the car and cut the rest of the car up for scrap. Then take it to the scrapper yourself or call the scrap man to come get it. Like I said before, I would not take less than $1000 for the title and VIN's that I have. The scrap yard will need a title if you bring them a whole car so you will need to chop the car up into atleast quarters. Or sell him the whole car when you are done parting it out. Problem solved.

If you don't want to mess with it and the car did not get rolled and the roof and fastback stuff are still good I would put the whole thing up on ebay and sell it as a complete car with a title and be done with it. It should bring at least $2000

 

It's only win win for the guy who is selling it....Maybe not so bad for a same model(not sure why you would do that unless one car was stolen?) but what about the K code vin swapped onto a T code six banger car?..The poor guy buying it is not getting what he is paying for...If you completely restore a rust bucket it may be true hardly anything original is left but at least the buyer knows what he is buying and some part of the car is actually original..

 

If I was going to sell a VIN, the buyer would not only be entitled to whatever hulk it was attached to - he'd be required to cart it off as its new owner. At that point my job as a seller would be complete and entirely legal. Whatever the buyer might do with it all afterward would be strictly his car and his business. If said buyer would not agree to those terms, the deal would fall through.


Norm