Thinking about a 07 V6...
Chop Mod
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,333
From: OK
Check for the water leak.
Its simple to do, on the passenger side floor board feel the carpet where the floor pan meets the kick panel. If it is wet you really might want to walk away. And reach your hand under the dash on the passenger side to feel for a large plastic grommet, if it is wet think about passing as well.
The water leak on these cars is NO FUN.
But as for fun, reliability, price, and looks, the s197 V6s have a hard time being beat.
They are fairly peppy down low.
The price seems good too.
Its simple to do, on the passenger side floor board feel the carpet where the floor pan meets the kick panel. If it is wet you really might want to walk away. And reach your hand under the dash on the passenger side to feel for a large plastic grommet, if it is wet think about passing as well.
The water leak on these cars is NO FUN.
But as for fun, reliability, price, and looks, the s197 V6s have a hard time being beat.
They are fairly peppy down low.
The price seems good too.
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 63
From: Pittsburgh, PA
If your going to buy a used Mustang, I would say go for the Gt. I also own a 2008 V6 and have it looking and running really good but in hindsight I should have gotten the GT. Its a better platform to start modding. IMO
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 27
From: NY
so my low post count means i dont know about mustangs? you guys really are idiots.
as for the v6 vs v8. i have owned both. i had the v6 first. got the v8 because the v6 wasnt worth modding to be almost as fast as a v8.
as for nitrous, it should ONLY be used at a track. what if someone wants a car that is fast all around and not only at the track? what if he wants to do some racing that doesnt involve only stomping on the gas pedal for 15 seconds? some of you think people only want to go in a straight line.
a tall gear will affect gas mileage, also, a gear set with install is on average $500, add that to the $500 to purchase and install the nitrous, and the $300 for the tuner and tune, you are now spending $1300 more, which could buy a GT. your argument is now invalid.
as for what it will take to keep up with a gt, look at it this way. an X-charged full exhaust dyno tuned drag prepped v6 couldnt keep up with my intake, email tuned, axle backed road race suspenion v8. as for gas mileage, i got 28 mpg on the way to the track that day, he got 17 mpg.
as for reflecting poorly, you dont need me for that. you guys do it enough for yourselves. especially when you post threads about what engine to go with in the general tech section of a forum and there is a subforum directly underneath dedicated to the S197 body style.
so theres your detailed retort. as for the 05 first run argument, get a used 06. price difference is not going to be that detrimental. also, i have no hatred for the v6. like i said, i started in one. any other personal attacks can be sent in a pm.
as for the v6 vs v8. i have owned both. i had the v6 first. got the v8 because the v6 wasnt worth modding to be almost as fast as a v8.
as for nitrous, it should ONLY be used at a track. what if someone wants a car that is fast all around and not only at the track? what if he wants to do some racing that doesnt involve only stomping on the gas pedal for 15 seconds? some of you think people only want to go in a straight line.
a tall gear will affect gas mileage, also, a gear set with install is on average $500, add that to the $500 to purchase and install the nitrous, and the $300 for the tuner and tune, you are now spending $1300 more, which could buy a GT. your argument is now invalid.
as for what it will take to keep up with a gt, look at it this way. an X-charged full exhaust dyno tuned drag prepped v6 couldnt keep up with my intake, email tuned, axle backed road race suspenion v8. as for gas mileage, i got 28 mpg on the way to the track that day, he got 17 mpg.
as for reflecting poorly, you dont need me for that. you guys do it enough for yourselves. especially when you post threads about what engine to go with in the general tech section of a forum and there is a subforum directly underneath dedicated to the S197 body style.
so theres your detailed retort. as for the 05 first run argument, get a used 06. price difference is not going to be that detrimental. also, i have no hatred for the v6. like i said, i started in one. any other personal attacks can be sent in a pm.
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,717
From: Indiana
so my low post count means i dont know about mustangs? you guys really are idiots.
as for the v6 vs v8. i have owned both. i had the v6 first. got the v8 because the v6 wasnt worth modding to be almost as fast as a v8.
as for nitrous, it should ONLY be used at a track. what if someone wants a car that is fast all around and not only at the track? what if he wants to do some racing that doesnt involve only stomping on the gas pedal for 15 seconds? some of you think people only want to go in a straight line.
a tall gear will affect gas mileage, also, a gear set with install is on average $500, add that to the $500 to purchase and install the nitrous, and the $300 for the tuner and tune, you are now spending $1300 more, which could buy a GT. your argument is now invalid.
as for what it will take to keep up with a gt, look at it this way. an X-charged full exhaust dyno tuned drag prepped v6 couldnt keep up with my intake, email tuned, axle backed road race suspenion v8. as for gas mileage, i got 28 mpg on the way to the track that day, he got 17 mpg.
as for reflecting poorly, you dont need me for that. you guys do it enough for yourselves. especially when you post threads about what engine to go with in the general tech section of a forum and there is a subforum directly underneath dedicated to the S197 body style.
so theres your detailed retort. as for the 05 first run argument, get a used 06. price difference is not going to be that detrimental. also, i have no hatred for the v6. like i said, i started in one. any other personal attacks can be sent in a pm.
as for the v6 vs v8. i have owned both. i had the v6 first. got the v8 because the v6 wasnt worth modding to be almost as fast as a v8.
as for nitrous, it should ONLY be used at a track. what if someone wants a car that is fast all around and not only at the track? what if he wants to do some racing that doesnt involve only stomping on the gas pedal for 15 seconds? some of you think people only want to go in a straight line.
a tall gear will affect gas mileage, also, a gear set with install is on average $500, add that to the $500 to purchase and install the nitrous, and the $300 for the tuner and tune, you are now spending $1300 more, which could buy a GT. your argument is now invalid.
as for what it will take to keep up with a gt, look at it this way. an X-charged full exhaust dyno tuned drag prepped v6 couldnt keep up with my intake, email tuned, axle backed road race suspenion v8. as for gas mileage, i got 28 mpg on the way to the track that day, he got 17 mpg.
as for reflecting poorly, you dont need me for that. you guys do it enough for yourselves. especially when you post threads about what engine to go with in the general tech section of a forum and there is a subforum directly underneath dedicated to the S197 body style.
so theres your detailed retort. as for the 05 first run argument, get a used 06. price difference is not going to be that detrimental. also, i have no hatred for the v6. like i said, i started in one. any other personal attacks can be sent in a pm.
No one was complaining about your post count, nobody brought it up until your rebuttals became that of a 3rd grader, with no proof to back them up. Your credibility at that point went straight to the gutter, so someone made it clear that you have no prior accreditation to base your harsh (and un-backed) assessments of the 4.0L off of. And name calling will get you nowhere but a ban "idiot".
Second paragraph, thanks for you opinion. Go shove it down someone elses throat.
Nitrous is used in a lot more places than the track, deal with it. Stop crying. You say turns, huh? Well last I checked a v6 will handle those turns better than a GT, albeit marginally, but again your statement is null and void. The v6 is lighter, less weight at the nose, etc. Are you saying a v6 with the bottle will lose out in the turns (both having stock suspension)? No, again you are wrong.
$1300 more for a GT? Show me a 4.6L that has all the options my v6 came with for anywhere near 1300 more than what I paid. Doesn't exist where I live. Moreover, ever heard of insurance? Mine would double should I get a GT at the age of 19. As for your MPG argument, you are dead wrong. I linked a guy who carefully documented his MPGs with 4.10 gears on his v6, and he averaged like 24mpgs with his setup. Don't know where you got your info, but you lied.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...g-4-10s-3.html
I seriously doubt an x-charged v6 lost out to your axleback gt with a can tune. What do you run in the 1/4? An x-charged v6 (optimistically) runs a 12-13s 1/4.
And yes, you do reflect poorly on this forum, I don't know if you are some kind of troll, or someone with a mental disorder but a free piece of advice: Don't go joining sites, then spam them with your fake races, personal opinion, and to top it off rude demeanor and insults directed towards the whole forum. Makes you a pretty unpopular guy.
The model year thing; you are clearly someone who has never even taken a glance at the TSB section of this forum (another indication you know nothing of what you are talking about). An 06 has almost as many TSBs as an 05, and the water leak issue spans up to the 07s... Not that this is a terrible problem, easily corrected and I would always recommend a mustang regardless of year.
I have no hatred for v6s, I started out with one, and still have it. But I DO have a hatred of 8 cylinder fanboys who make up numbers and stories out of their asses.
Last edited by aaquib1992; Dec 3, 2011 at 04:33 PM.
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,688
From: MO/ Born and raised in Louisiana
Your overall coherence is non-existent, so I'll break my response down into simple parts just like your babble.
No one was complaining about your post count, nobody brought it up until your rebuttals became that of a 3rd grader, with no proof to back them up. Your credibility at that point went straight to the gutter, so someone made it clear that you have no prior accreditation to base your harsh (and un-backed) assessments of the 4.0L off of. And name calling will get you nowhere but a ban "idiot".
Second paragraph, thanks for you opinion. Go shove it down someone elses throat.
Nitrous is used in a lot more places than the track, deal with it. Stop crying. You say turns, huh? Well last I checked a v6 will handle those turns better than a GT, albeit marginally, but again your statement is null and void. The v6 is lighter, less weight at the nose, etc. Are you saying a v6 with the bottle will lose out in the turns (both having stock suspension)? No, again you are wrong.
$1300 more for a GT? Show me a 4.6L that has all the options my v6 came with for anywhere near 1300 more than what I paid. Doesn't exist where I live. Moreover, ever heard of insurance? Mine would double should I get a GT at the age of 19. As for your MPG argument, you are dead wrong. I linked a guy who carefully documented his MPGs with 4.10 gears on his v6, and he averaged like 24mpgs with his setup. Don't know where you got your info, but you lied.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...g-4-10s-3.html
I seriously doubt an x-charged v6 lost out to your axleback gt with a can tune. What do you run in the 1/4? An x-charged v6 (optimistically) runs a 12-13s 1/4.
And yes, you do reflect poorly on this forum, I don't know if you are some kind of troll, or someone with a mental disorder but a free piece of advice: Don't go joining sites, then spam them with your fake races, personal opinion, and to top it off rude demeanor and insults directed towards the whole forum. Makes you a pretty unpopular guy.
The model year thing; you are clearly someone who has never even taken a glance at the TSB section of this forum (another indication you know nothing of what you are talking about). An 06 has almost as many TSBs as an 05, and the water leak issue spans up to the 07s... Not that this is a terrible problem, easily corrected and I would always recommend a mustang regardless of year.
I have no hatred for v6s, I started out with one, and still have it. But I DO have a hatred of 8 cylinder fanboys who make up numbers and stories out of their asses.
No one was complaining about your post count, nobody brought it up until your rebuttals became that of a 3rd grader, with no proof to back them up. Your credibility at that point went straight to the gutter, so someone made it clear that you have no prior accreditation to base your harsh (and un-backed) assessments of the 4.0L off of. And name calling will get you nowhere but a ban "idiot".
Second paragraph, thanks for you opinion. Go shove it down someone elses throat.
Nitrous is used in a lot more places than the track, deal with it. Stop crying. You say turns, huh? Well last I checked a v6 will handle those turns better than a GT, albeit marginally, but again your statement is null and void. The v6 is lighter, less weight at the nose, etc. Are you saying a v6 with the bottle will lose out in the turns (both having stock suspension)? No, again you are wrong.
$1300 more for a GT? Show me a 4.6L that has all the options my v6 came with for anywhere near 1300 more than what I paid. Doesn't exist where I live. Moreover, ever heard of insurance? Mine would double should I get a GT at the age of 19. As for your MPG argument, you are dead wrong. I linked a guy who carefully documented his MPGs with 4.10 gears on his v6, and he averaged like 24mpgs with his setup. Don't know where you got your info, but you lied.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...g-4-10s-3.html
I seriously doubt an x-charged v6 lost out to your axleback gt with a can tune. What do you run in the 1/4? An x-charged v6 (optimistically) runs a 12-13s 1/4.
And yes, you do reflect poorly on this forum, I don't know if you are some kind of troll, or someone with a mental disorder but a free piece of advice: Don't go joining sites, then spam them with your fake races, personal opinion, and to top it off rude demeanor and insults directed towards the whole forum. Makes you a pretty unpopular guy.
The model year thing; you are clearly someone who has never even taken a glance at the TSB section of this forum (another indication you know nothing of what you are talking about). An 06 has almost as many TSBs as an 05, and the water leak issue spans up to the 07s... Not that this is a terrible problem, easily corrected and I would always recommend a mustang regardless of year.
I have no hatred for v6s, I started out with one, and still have it. But I DO have a hatred of 8 cylinder fanboys who make up numbers and stories out of their asses.
agreed!
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Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,256
From: Philadelphia, PA
I guess if you were to put the exact same suspension mods on both cars, the 6er would have an slight advantage due to weighing less, but not many people go ***** to the wall with the 6s like they do with the 8s so the argument is kinda pointless
I have respect for both cars, and both can be made fast/quick/whatever, but the V6-GT debate will never end so buy what makes YOU happy
Last edited by Alec; Dec 4, 2011 at 01:01 PM.
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 413
From: TX
Your overall coherence is non-existent, so I'll break my response down into simple parts just like your babble.
No one was complaining about your post count, nobody brought it up until your rebuttals became that of a 3rd grader, with no proof to back them up. Your credibility at that point went straight to the gutter, so someone made it clear that you have no prior accreditation to base your harsh (and un-backed) assessments of the 4.0L off of. And name calling will get you nowhere but a ban "idiot".
Second paragraph, thanks for you opinion. Go shove it down someone elses throat.
Nitrous is used in a lot more places than the track, deal with it. Stop crying. You say turns, huh? Well last I checked a v6 will handle those turns better than a GT, albeit marginally, but again your statement is null and void. The v6 is lighter, less weight at the nose, etc. Are you saying a v6 with the bottle will lose out in the turns (both having stock suspension)? No, again you are wrong.
$1300 more for a GT? Show me a 4.6L that has all the options my v6 came with for anywhere near 1300 more than what I paid. Doesn't exist where I live. Moreover, ever heard of insurance? Mine would double should I get a GT at the age of 19. As for your MPG argument, you are dead wrong. I linked a guy who carefully documented his MPGs with 4.10 gears on his v6, and he averaged like 24mpgs with his setup. Don't know where you got your info, but you lied.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...g-4-10s-3.html
I seriously doubt an x-charged v6 lost out to your axleback gt with a can tune. What do you run in the 1/4? An x-charged v6 (optimistically) runs a 12-13s 1/4.
And yes, you do reflect poorly on this forum, I don't know if you are some kind of troll, or someone with a mental disorder but a free piece of advice: Don't go joining sites, then spam them with your fake races, personal opinion, and to top it off rude demeanor and insults directed towards the whole forum. Makes you a pretty unpopular guy.
The model year thing; you are clearly someone who has never even taken a glance at the TSB section of this forum (another indication you know nothing of what you are talking about). An 06 has almost as many TSBs as an 05, and the water leak issue spans up to the 07s... Not that this is a terrible problem, easily corrected and I would always recommend a mustang regardless of year.
I have no hatred for v6s, I started out with one, and still have it. But I DO have a hatred of 8 cylinder fanboys who make up numbers and stories out of their asses.
No one was complaining about your post count, nobody brought it up until your rebuttals became that of a 3rd grader, with no proof to back them up. Your credibility at that point went straight to the gutter, so someone made it clear that you have no prior accreditation to base your harsh (and un-backed) assessments of the 4.0L off of. And name calling will get you nowhere but a ban "idiot".
Second paragraph, thanks for you opinion. Go shove it down someone elses throat.
Nitrous is used in a lot more places than the track, deal with it. Stop crying. You say turns, huh? Well last I checked a v6 will handle those turns better than a GT, albeit marginally, but again your statement is null and void. The v6 is lighter, less weight at the nose, etc. Are you saying a v6 with the bottle will lose out in the turns (both having stock suspension)? No, again you are wrong.
$1300 more for a GT? Show me a 4.6L that has all the options my v6 came with for anywhere near 1300 more than what I paid. Doesn't exist where I live. Moreover, ever heard of insurance? Mine would double should I get a GT at the age of 19. As for your MPG argument, you are dead wrong. I linked a guy who carefully documented his MPGs with 4.10 gears on his v6, and he averaged like 24mpgs with his setup. Don't know where you got your info, but you lied.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...g-4-10s-3.html
I seriously doubt an x-charged v6 lost out to your axleback gt with a can tune. What do you run in the 1/4? An x-charged v6 (optimistically) runs a 12-13s 1/4.
And yes, you do reflect poorly on this forum, I don't know if you are some kind of troll, or someone with a mental disorder but a free piece of advice: Don't go joining sites, then spam them with your fake races, personal opinion, and to top it off rude demeanor and insults directed towards the whole forum. Makes you a pretty unpopular guy.
The model year thing; you are clearly someone who has never even taken a glance at the TSB section of this forum (another indication you know nothing of what you are talking about). An 06 has almost as many TSBs as an 05, and the water leak issue spans up to the 07s... Not that this is a terrible problem, easily corrected and I would always recommend a mustang regardless of year.
I have no hatred for v6s, I started out with one, and still have it. But I DO have a hatred of 8 cylinder fanboys who make up numbers and stories out of their asses.
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,213
From: Boston, MA
My X-Charged heavy *** 'vert, with it's heavy *** driver, wide 285 rubber out back and 3.73 gears plus a trunk packed full of luggage and a heavy cooler on the back seat gets 25.5-26 mpg regularly on the highway (I've taken it from the Northeast to Kansas and back multiple times, so I know what it does for fuel) *if* that mileage account is accurate, his tune is either pretty screwed up, or he's hauling a trunk load of lead bars...
Last edited by Torch_Vert; Dec 4, 2011 at 09:51 PM.