What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
05-28-2006, 02:01 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
ORIGINAL: hdawg06
I'm sorry to tell you, that I witnessed a stock mach1 beat a 02 TA WS6(with exhaust) by about 4cars. FBodys weigh over 400lbs more, and make the same horse as a 4v. Also, Fbodys can't launch worth a ****. Even a good driver has a tough time doing it.
ORIGINAL: ThisBlood147
Hey undefeated, you went on Mach1registry forums? Man, those guys have some kind of high opinions of their 03/04 Machs. I mean, I think those cars are awesome........but ask those guys who will win.....anything vs. the Mach, and they win everytime. I just read a thread a while ago on there where the guy claimed to have spanked a GTO, and then immediately after he ran neck in neck with a Ford GT up until 90mph.......and this is on the street. Oh, and for the LS1 guys.........they think stock for stock the Mach 1 will "spank" an LS1 F-body. It's rediculous. I'm glad I decided to come to a site with a variety of car enthusiasts........cuz fanboy back-patting is retarded.
Hey undefeated, you went on Mach1registry forums? Man, those guys have some kind of high opinions of their 03/04 Machs. I mean, I think those cars are awesome........but ask those guys who will win.....anything vs. the Mach, and they win everytime. I just read a thread a while ago on there where the guy claimed to have spanked a GTO, and then immediately after he ran neck in neck with a Ford GT up until 90mph.......and this is on the street. Oh, and for the LS1 guys.........they think stock for stock the Mach 1 will "spank" an LS1 F-body. It's rediculous. I'm glad I decided to come to a site with a variety of car enthusiasts........cuz fanboy back-patting is retarded.
I'm sorry to tell you, that I witnessed a stock mach1 beat a 02 TA WS6(with exhaust) by about 4cars. FBodys weigh over 400lbs more, and make the same horse as a 4v. Also, Fbodys can't launch worth a ****. Even a good driver has a tough time doing it.
my buddy has a mach 1..o/r x and a CAI..my other buddy has a convertible automatic z28 ls1...when the mach was stock, and the ls1 had a cutout, the ls1 won, by about 1/2 car to a car..when the mach had the o/r x he won by about 1 car 1/2...remeber though, the ls1 was automatic, a convertible (more weight) and since it was auto and a vert it had like 2.73's out back..mach's had 3.55's
05-28-2006, 04:41 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
When I go to the track I don't care who gets lined up next to me and expect to loose a few races. What really surprised me is that I raced a blown Mach I and beat him. The same night I beat this 06 GTO 3 times. The mach had drag radials and the GTO street tires. I had srteet tires. The difference? I launched from idle and didn't power shift. They launched at high RPMs and broke loose and I imagine when they tried to catch up with me, broke loose again in second. On a different night I beat 2 different GTOs and a midly modified Z-28. (he mentioned exhaust, CAI and gears) All these was the driver. I also lost my share of races and most of them I expected it and a few surprised me. Its all for fun!!!
05-28-2006, 06:13 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
ORIGINAL: Albizo66
my buddy has a mach 1..o/r x and a CAI..my other buddy has a convertible automatic z28 ls1...when the mach was stock, and the ls1 had a cutout, the ls1 won, by about 1/2 car to a car..when the mach had the o/r x he won by about 1 car 1/2...remeber though, the ls1 was automatic, a convertible (more weight) and since it was auto and a vert it had like 2.73's out back..mach's had 3.55's
ORIGINAL: hdawg06
I'm sorry to tell you, that I witnessed a stock mach1 beat a 02 TA WS6(with exhaust) by about 4cars. FBodys weigh over 400lbs more, and make the same horse as a 4v. Also, Fbodys can't launch worth a ****. Even a good driver has a tough time doing it.
ORIGINAL: ThisBlood147
Hey undefeated, you went on Mach1registry forums? Man, those guys have some kind of high opinions of their 03/04 Machs. I mean, I think those cars are awesome........but ask those guys who will win.....anything vs. the Mach, and they win everytime. I just read a thread a while ago on there where the guy claimed to have spanked a GTO, and then immediately after he ran neck in neck with a Ford GT up until 90mph.......and this is on the street. Oh, and for the LS1 guys.........they think stock for stock the Mach 1 will "spank" an LS1 F-body. It's rediculous. I'm glad I decided to come to a site with a variety of car enthusiasts........cuz fanboy back-patting is retarded.
Hey undefeated, you went on Mach1registry forums? Man, those guys have some kind of high opinions of their 03/04 Machs. I mean, I think those cars are awesome........but ask those guys who will win.....anything vs. the Mach, and they win everytime. I just read a thread a while ago on there where the guy claimed to have spanked a GTO, and then immediately after he ran neck in neck with a Ford GT up until 90mph.......and this is on the street. Oh, and for the LS1 guys.........they think stock for stock the Mach 1 will "spank" an LS1 F-body. It's rediculous. I'm glad I decided to come to a site with a variety of car enthusiasts........cuz fanboy back-patting is retarded.
I'm sorry to tell you, that I witnessed a stock mach1 beat a 02 TA WS6(with exhaust) by about 4cars. FBodys weigh over 400lbs more, and make the same horse as a 4v. Also, Fbodys can't launch worth a ****. Even a good driver has a tough time doing it.
my buddy has a mach 1..o/r x and a CAI..my other buddy has a convertible automatic z28 ls1...when the mach was stock, and the ls1 had a cutout, the ls1 won, by about 1/2 car to a car..when the mach had the o/r x he won by about 1 car 1/2...remeber though, the ls1 was automatic, a convertible (more weight) and since it was auto and a vert it had like 2.73's out back..mach's had 3.55's
05-28-2006, 06:23 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
ORIGINAL: 1fast05GT
When I go to the track I don't care who gets lined up next to me and expect to loose a few races. What really surprised me is that I raced a blown Mach I and beat him. The same night I beat this 06 GTO 3 times. The mach had drag radials and the GTO street tires. I had srteet tires. The difference? I launched from idle and didn't power shift. They launched at high RPMs and broke loose and I imagine when they tried to catch up with me, broke loose again in second. On a different night I beat 2 different GTOs and a midly modified Z-28. (he mentioned exhaust, CAI and gears) All these was the driver. I also lost my share of races and most of them I expected it and a few surprised me. Its all for fun!!!
When I go to the track I don't care who gets lined up next to me and expect to loose a few races. What really surprised me is that I raced a blown Mach I and beat him. The same night I beat this 06 GTO 3 times. The mach had drag radials and the GTO street tires. I had srteet tires. The difference? I launched from idle and didn't power shift. They launched at high RPMs and broke loose and I imagine when they tried to catch up with me, broke loose again in second. On a different night I beat 2 different GTOs and a midly modified Z-28. (he mentioned exhaust, CAI and gears) All these was the driver. I also lost my share of races and most of them I expected it and a few surprised me. Its all for fun!!!
05-28-2006, 09:20 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
ORIGINAL: hdawg06
I'm sorry to tell you, that I witnessed a stock mach1 beat a 02 TA WS6(with exhaust) by about 4cars. FBodys weigh over 400lbs more, and make the same horse as a 4v. Also, Fbodys can't launch worth a ****. Even a good driver has a tough time doing it.
ORIGINAL: ThisBlood147
Hey undefeated, you went on Mach1registry forums? Man, those guys have some kind of high opinions of their 03/04 Machs. I mean, I think those cars are awesome........but ask those guys who will win.....anything vs. the Mach, and they win everytime. I just read a thread a while ago on there where the guy claimed to have spanked a GTO, and then immediately after he ran neck in neck with a Ford GT up until 90mph.......and this is on the street. Oh, and for the LS1 guys.........they think stock for stock the Mach 1 will "spank" an LS1 F-body. It's rediculous. I'm glad I decided to come to a site with a variety of car enthusiasts........cuz fanboy back-patting is retarded.
Hey undefeated, you went on Mach1registry forums? Man, those guys have some kind of high opinions of their 03/04 Machs. I mean, I think those cars are awesome........but ask those guys who will win.....anything vs. the Mach, and they win everytime. I just read a thread a while ago on there where the guy claimed to have spanked a GTO, and then immediately after he ran neck in neck with a Ford GT up until 90mph.......and this is on the street. Oh, and for the LS1 guys.........they think stock for stock the Mach 1 will "spank" an LS1 F-body. It's rediculous. I'm glad I decided to come to a site with a variety of car enthusiasts........cuz fanboy back-patting is retarded.
I'm sorry to tell you, that I witnessed a stock mach1 beat a 02 TA WS6(with exhaust) by about 4cars. FBodys weigh over 400lbs more, and make the same horse as a 4v. Also, Fbodys can't launch worth a ****. Even a good driver has a tough time doing it.
05-29-2006, 09:43 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
ORIGINAL: Racefiend
Is this head's up or bracket racing?
ORIGINAL: 1fast05GT
When I go to the track I don't care who gets lined up next to me and expect to loose a few races. What really surprised me is that I raced a blown Mach I and beat him. The same night I beat this 06 GTO 3 times. The mach had drag radials and the GTO street tires. I had srteet tires. The difference? I launched from idle and didn't power shift. They launched at high RPMs and broke loose and I imagine when they tried to catch up with me, broke loose again in second. On a different night I beat 2 different GTOs and a midly modified Z-28. (he mentioned exhaust, CAI and gears) All these was the driver. I also lost my share of races and most of them I expected it and a few surprised me. Its all for fun!!!
When I go to the track I don't care who gets lined up next to me and expect to loose a few races. What really surprised me is that I raced a blown Mach I and beat him. The same night I beat this 06 GTO 3 times. The mach had drag radials and the GTO street tires. I had srteet tires. The difference? I launched from idle and didn't power shift. They launched at high RPMs and broke loose and I imagine when they tried to catch up with me, broke loose again in second. On a different night I beat 2 different GTOs and a midly modified Z-28. (he mentioned exhaust, CAI and gears) All these was the driver. I also lost my share of races and most of them I expected it and a few surprised me. Its all for fun!!!
Heads up.
05-29-2006, 10:33 PM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
i hate to tell you but machs are underrated by atleast 15 HP, and if you say a stang will outhandel an f-body then me and you have driven two different kinds of F-bodies, cause the one i drove, handeled pretty damn good
ORIGINAL: firestang70
OK. This has ben discussed before. The Machs have 5 more hp, their redline is a little higher. Our cars are a little heavier. Stock for stock they should be close with 1 or 2 tenths. A good driver can swing the balance either way. At my local tracks they are mid 13s stock. A buddys 04 is running a best of 12.7s with DRs and some simple boltons. In the twisties its not even close a S197 will spank a Mach or LS1. On the straights a LS1 will kill our cars stock for stock. A 5.7 versus 4.6, its an easy one. Enjoy rides fellas you all have bad rides!
OK. This has ben discussed before. The Machs have 5 more hp, their redline is a little higher. Our cars are a little heavier. Stock for stock they should be close with 1 or 2 tenths. A good driver can swing the balance either way. At my local tracks they are mid 13s stock. A buddys 04 is running a best of 12.7s with DRs and some simple boltons. In the twisties its not even close a S197 will spank a Mach or LS1. On the straights a LS1 will kill our cars stock for stock. A 5.7 versus 4.6, its an easy one. Enjoy rides fellas you all have bad rides!
you guys were talkin about the same f-bodies, but different stangs...
ive raced a couple machs and lost to one. i was stock and he had intake, tune, and exhaust, and i lost by a car and a half.
ive raced a number of ls1's too. won most, lost a handfull, and been demolished by a couple...though i was modded
05-30-2006, 12:10 AM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
There's a guy in my local club with a Mach1. They're fast....but they can't "Hand it" to the S197's. It's basically a drivers race. I think his dynoed at 305RWHP with a few basic mods.
05-30-2006, 02:38 AM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
2 stats, according to the same source.
Mach 1: 1/4 in 13.22
S197 GT: 1/4 in 13.5
marginally faster. bottom line? pick which one u want based on styling etc. the mach is marginally faster, has a bit more potential, but its by no means GOD. they are sweet as hell but apparently overrated (speed wise).
Mach 1: 1/4 in 13.22
S197 GT: 1/4 in 13.5
marginally faster. bottom line? pick which one u want based on styling etc. the mach is marginally faster, has a bit more potential, but its by no means GOD. they are sweet as hell but apparently overrated (speed wise).
05-30-2006, 11:06 AM
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RE: What's up with the 03/04 Mach 1's
i beat a few mach 1's, they are fast but they couldn't hang. I pretty much tied a supercharged mach 1... this was all a the track. My fastest time that day was a 12.99 and the mojority of the times were hot laps anywhere between 13.10 and 13.30
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