Not all S/C's are created equal...
#12
RE: Not all S/C's are created equal...
Looking forward to the numbers. Good thing I am off work tomorrow, so I can watch these boards. I also have to call Adam and organize a stroker build for my car. I hope he appreciates the 2200+ mile drive I am willing to take!
#13
RE: Not all S/C's are created equal...
You will see a bigger number out of my KB/Whipple 3.4 kit real soon
Patience Grasshopper Patience
Can't wait to see what the ST crew throws down on Thursday. I will especially have my eye on the Redfire car[8D]
Patience Grasshopper Patience
Can't wait to see what the ST crew throws down on Thursday. I will especially have my eye on the Redfire car[8D]
#14
RE: Not all S/C's are created equal...
ORIGINAL: modaddict
Wow, I really got a lesson the last week on the internal workings of the twin screws.
Long story short, Upon comparison - I really liked the design of the KB lower manifold and thought it was superior to the Whipple's so on my 3.4 HO build, I used the KB lower manifold, intercooler, and crossover from my 2.6 HO kit and fabbed it to work with the whipple. This set-up was also done on John Sawyers car.
When John's car got on the dyno it made great power but it really was about 50 hp under what we think it should have been. Dragged our asses for about a week thinking of every scenario why this was happening and after adam talking at length with whipple, it turns out the issue is the whipple actually has a different flow pattern from the way the rotors turn than the KB. This difference actually took away from the whipple performance with the KB other parts.
I really thought/think the KB was superior in this area (lower manifold, intercooler, & crossover) and still think it is but I suppose a lot more goes into these kits than I suspected and there's a lot more to it considering the rotors, how the spin, and overall how it pushes psi.
The moral of the story is in the case of the whipple and KB, it seems they are not completely compatible with one another. Yes, it will work, but not to the best ability of the blower.
On my car, I was looking at losing a whopping 100 rwhp with the mix match set-up.
So I think it is safe to say that the kits are best suited for their own components and mixing and matching isn't too smart.
Well, whipple gave me a killer deal to get the lower manifold, resevior, crossover, and some other stuff so the car will be in tip top shape for Irwindale this thursday. I should actually have some baseline dyno numbers tomorrow.
The other good news is now instead of a KB 'upgrade' kit for sale, I'll have a complete 2.6 HO KB with a lot of goodies for sale so that is cool for me. (and someone else...lol)
Anyway, just thought some of you might find it interesting like I did.
CK
Wow, I really got a lesson the last week on the internal workings of the twin screws.
Long story short, Upon comparison - I really liked the design of the KB lower manifold and thought it was superior to the Whipple's so on my 3.4 HO build, I used the KB lower manifold, intercooler, and crossover from my 2.6 HO kit and fabbed it to work with the whipple. This set-up was also done on John Sawyers car.
When John's car got on the dyno it made great power but it really was about 50 hp under what we think it should have been. Dragged our asses for about a week thinking of every scenario why this was happening and after adam talking at length with whipple, it turns out the issue is the whipple actually has a different flow pattern from the way the rotors turn than the KB. This difference actually took away from the whipple performance with the KB other parts.
I really thought/think the KB was superior in this area (lower manifold, intercooler, & crossover) and still think it is but I suppose a lot more goes into these kits than I suspected and there's a lot more to it considering the rotors, how the spin, and overall how it pushes psi.
The moral of the story is in the case of the whipple and KB, it seems they are not completely compatible with one another. Yes, it will work, but not to the best ability of the blower.
On my car, I was looking at losing a whopping 100 rwhp with the mix match set-up.
So I think it is safe to say that the kits are best suited for their own components and mixing and matching isn't too smart.
Well, whipple gave me a killer deal to get the lower manifold, resevior, crossover, and some other stuff so the car will be in tip top shape for Irwindale this thursday. I should actually have some baseline dyno numbers tomorrow.
The other good news is now instead of a KB 'upgrade' kit for sale, I'll have a complete 2.6 HO KB with a lot of goodies for sale so that is cool for me. (and someone else...lol)
Anyway, just thought some of you might find it interesting like I did.
CK
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
#15
RE: Not all S/C's are created equal...
There's a guy on another forum saying the same thing about Saleen blowers...
ORIGINAL: Boostaddict
. That's why the fastest twin screw cars are running Whipple's instead of other brand blowers.
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
. That's why the fastest twin screw cars are running Whipple's instead of other brand blowers.
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
#16
RE: Not all S/C's are created equal...
ORIGINAL: blueherd02gt
There's a guy on another forum saying the same thing about Saleen blowers...
There's a guy on another forum saying the same thing about Saleen blowers...
ORIGINAL: Boostaddict
. That's why the fastest twin screw cars are running Whipple's instead of other brand blowers.
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
. That's why the fastest twin screw cars are running Whipple's instead of other brand blowers.
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
Jared
#18
RE: Not all S/C's are created equal...
ORIGINAL: Boostaddict
Anyone can say what they feel but to back it up with facts is another thing. Here's the facts.. The fastest twin screw GT500 (Evolution Performance), 03/04 Cobra (JR Lewis), Lightning (Dantes Modular Performance) all run 3.4L Whipple's. Until that changes there's really no other way to look at it.
Jared
ORIGINAL: blueherd02gt
There's a guy on another forum saying the same thing about Saleen blowers...
There's a guy on another forum saying the same thing about Saleen blowers...
ORIGINAL: Boostaddict
. That's why the fastest twin screw cars are running Whipple's instead of other brand blowers.
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
. That's why the fastest twin screw cars are running Whipple's instead of other brand blowers.
You chose wisely young grasshopper! LOL
Speak to you soon. Jared
Jared
Another food for thought is the fact the whipple is the ONLY TS of the mustang 3 (saleen, whipple, KB) to be used in the NHRA TAD classes. In fact, it was the dominating blower of choice till the lighter PSI took over...
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Soldier GT
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
9
08-12-2015 03:46 PM