2013 GT 5.0 Hellion Twins (engine build suggestions)
#1
2013 GT 5.0 Hellion Twins (engine build suggestions)
I am looking to do a Twin Hellion Turbo setup on my Coyote. I would really like to push 850 horses really do not feel the need to go higher. So am I looking at what about 15psi?
What would I be looking at for an engine build to be able to handle that kind of power?
What would I be looking at for an engine build to be able to handle that kind of power?
#2
It could be expensive if everything has to get plumbed as I've seen, or are you getting a top side Hellion? Still building the engine and those two Hellions, that could be a lot of cash?
Drag-it? or just see how long it takes to get from Spokane to Seattle? At 180 mph traveling 3 miles a minute at 300 miles, 1 hr and 40 min. better then Alaskan Air.
You can get a crate engine Cobra Jet Black Lung N/A 500 Hp for $16K or full S/C for $24K.
If you go Hellion have you up-graded your clutch to that level of power? Will the driveshaft , posi and differential shafts handle this? How is an MT-82 with 850 hp I think it's 250+ more then it's rated torque rated 590 something?.
I'm looking to bombproof my driveline before I make the motor mean. Swarr-bar and LCB's for anti-wheel hop Yukon Posi. Alloy differential shafts, ShaftMaster aluminum, BMR Safety-loop and brace, Spec. Stage1 and Spec. Aluminum Flywheel. Add a steel braided clutch-line and Barton short throw with bottom bracket, should keep me from a sled tow truck ride home. You've got the suspension and brakes covered now the engine.
I'd get a crate Boss with L/T a FRPP 90mm T/B and a 93 tune, then sell the old Coyote. You could have 500 usable controllable to the ground, that's N/A safe, and have enough saved to take the receptionist to Tahiti.
Drag-it? or just see how long it takes to get from Spokane to Seattle? At 180 mph traveling 3 miles a minute at 300 miles, 1 hr and 40 min. better then Alaskan Air.
You can get a crate engine Cobra Jet Black Lung N/A 500 Hp for $16K or full S/C for $24K.
If you go Hellion have you up-graded your clutch to that level of power? Will the driveshaft , posi and differential shafts handle this? How is an MT-82 with 850 hp I think it's 250+ more then it's rated torque rated 590 something?.
I'm looking to bombproof my driveline before I make the motor mean. Swarr-bar and LCB's for anti-wheel hop Yukon Posi. Alloy differential shafts, ShaftMaster aluminum, BMR Safety-loop and brace, Spec. Stage1 and Spec. Aluminum Flywheel. Add a steel braided clutch-line and Barton short throw with bottom bracket, should keep me from a sled tow truck ride home. You've got the suspension and brakes covered now the engine.
I'd get a crate Boss with L/T a FRPP 90mm T/B and a 93 tune, then sell the old Coyote. You could have 500 usable controllable to the ground, that's N/A safe, and have enough saved to take the receptionist to Tahiti.
Last edited by VistaBlueFrank68; 07-24-2013 at 12:50 AM.
#3
Everything in the car is stock except for the suspension right now.
Yeah changing the engine would work but I am partial to keep the original engine with the car. I did plan on putting in an aluminum drive shaft. I did not think about the transmission not really sure what it can handle. May have to consult with TMS on Friday they are having a cruise in.
Yeah changing the engine would work but I am partial to keep the original engine with the car. I did plan on putting in an aluminum drive shaft. I did not think about the transmission not really sure what it can handle. May have to consult with TMS on Friday they are having a cruise in.
#4
I remember a dude got a 2013 V6 and S/C it to a very high lbs level and blew-it up on his first pass, then they towed to in and
the TMS rebuilt the whole thing. Must have been expensive. These Coyote motors are built to put-out close to their safe maximum. The compression is high so not friendly to power adders, which engines usually have reduced compression, like 11:1 N/A where as S/C run around 9.5:1. Your MT-82 can handle maybe 590 Ft/Lb of torc. I believe you'd burn the clutch or twist a differential shaft. That like new 5.0 should get you $4K easy. I'd like to make it back for the TMS event but have to make some more mod money.
the TMS rebuilt the whole thing. Must have been expensive. These Coyote motors are built to put-out close to their safe maximum. The compression is high so not friendly to power adders, which engines usually have reduced compression, like 11:1 N/A where as S/C run around 9.5:1. Your MT-82 can handle maybe 590 Ft/Lb of torc. I believe you'd burn the clutch or twist a differential shaft. That like new 5.0 should get you $4K easy. I'd like to make it back for the TMS event but have to make some more mod money.
Last edited by VistaBlueFrank68; 07-24-2013 at 01:34 AM.
#5
It could be expensive if everything has to get plumbed as I've seen, or are you getting a top side Hellion? Still building the engine and those two Hellions, that could be a lot of cash?
Drag-it? or just see how long it takes to get from Spokane to Seattle? At 180 mph traveling 3 miles a minute at 300 miles, 1 hr and 40 min. better then Alaskan Air.
You can get a crate engine Cobra Jet Black Lung N/A 500 Hp for $16K or full S/C for $24K.
If you go Hellion have you up-graded your clutch to that level of power? Will the driveshaft , posi and differential shafts handle this? How is an MT-82 with 850 hp I think it's 250+ more then it's rated torque rated 590 something?.
I'm looking to bombproof my driveline before I make the motor mean. Swarr-bar and LCB's for anti-wheel hop Yukon Posi. Alloy differential shafts, ShaftMaster aluminum, BMR Safety-loop and brace, Spec. Stage1 and Spec. Aluminum Flywheel. Add a steel braided clutch-line and Barton short throw with bottom bracket, should keep me from a sled tow truck ride home. You've got the suspension and brakes covered now the engine.
I'd get a crate Boss with L/T a FRPP 90mm T/B and a 93 tune, then sell the old Coyote. You could have 500 usable controllable to the ground, that's N/A safe, and have enough saved to take the receptionist to Tahiti.
Drag-it? or just see how long it takes to get from Spokane to Seattle? At 180 mph traveling 3 miles a minute at 300 miles, 1 hr and 40 min. better then Alaskan Air.
You can get a crate engine Cobra Jet Black Lung N/A 500 Hp for $16K or full S/C for $24K.
If you go Hellion have you up-graded your clutch to that level of power? Will the driveshaft , posi and differential shafts handle this? How is an MT-82 with 850 hp I think it's 250+ more then it's rated torque rated 590 something?.
I'm looking to bombproof my driveline before I make the motor mean. Swarr-bar and LCB's for anti-wheel hop Yukon Posi. Alloy differential shafts, ShaftMaster aluminum, BMR Safety-loop and brace, Spec. Stage1 and Spec. Aluminum Flywheel. Add a steel braided clutch-line and Barton short throw with bottom bracket, should keep me from a sled tow truck ride home. You've got the suspension and brakes covered now the engine.
I'd get a crate Boss with L/T a FRPP 90mm T/B and a 93 tune, then sell the old Coyote. You could have 500 usable controllable to the ground, that's N/A safe, and have enough saved to take the receptionist to Tahiti.
I was going to suggest going to all forged internals to handle that power, but that may be behind your idea to go with a FRPP crate Boss over the stock Coyote block. Is that the benefit as well?
#6
Well I did not plan on doing 15psi out of the gate figured I would start at about 6 to 7psi and see where it stands. 850 would just be a goal to shoot for but I do not want to blow the engine. I want to keep it within safe limits if I can run 650 safely I would be happy with that.
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