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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper_08
Yes in the summer I run them on all 4 corners on Steeda Ultra Lite 18 x 9.5 x 45 mm offset rims.

After lowering the car with Steeda Competition springs I got a slight rub on the left front on full lock but as it only occurs while parking I don't worry about it.
think that would be worse on 10" rims? how much lower?

i'm planning on raceline gt rims, 18x10 all around with the 285/40's... so i'm glad to hear someone else running the same width tires up front isn't having issues.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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im kind of interested in these megan coilovers, i just did a h&r spring drop and some other parts, but im thinkin about gettin these megans so i can get a little lower. i wanna hear from someone who has em tho.

i also hit a few dealers that do megan stuff to see how cheap i can get em for. ill let you guys know what i find.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KeneticEnergy
money has influence when your product is reviewed in magazines

megan racing also now makes a set for the s197gt. those and BC's wouldnt be a bad set for a daily driver who wanted to have the lowered look.
BC is the maker of Megan. the BC's are of a higher build quality. thicker wall thickness. as i said BC makes coils for a lot companies. a few years ago they decided to sell thier own products. BC's own coils are far superior the Megan. Megan is crap, stay away from Megan. also if you get coils or even just lowering springs. always do a bumpsteer kit. ride quality improves once the geometry is corrected. also i think once you dial in your suspension you will never adjust it in the future. you need to really think about what you want. try and get a ride in some cars that have coils, just springs etc. you would be surprised how well the car handles with just springs and a watts-link.

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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bull3441
BC is the maker of Megan. the BC's are of a higher build quality. thicker wall thickness. as i said BC makes coils for a lot companies. a few years ago they decided to sell thier own products. BC's own coils are far superior the Megan. Megan is crap, stay away from Megan. also if you get coils or even just lowering springs. always do a bumpsteer kit. ride quality improves once the geometry is corrected. also i think once you dial in your suspension you will never adjust it in the future. you need to really think about what you want. try and get a ride in some cars that have coils, just springs etc. you would be surprised how well the car handles with just springs and a watts-link.

Mike
excellent info! thanks!

i havent been able to find a pricepoint on the BC's. i know the H&R's are around 1150 a set
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KeneticEnergy
excellent info! thanks!

i havent been able to find a pricepoint on the BC's. i know the H&R's are around 1150 a set
I was quoted $1050 + tax for the BC's

you're probably going to want to find a subaru tuner in order to get a quote on a set... thats what i did.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KeneticEnergy
excellent info! thanks!

i havent been able to find a pricepoint on the BC's. i know the H&R's are around 1150 a set
try importimageracing.com ask for Josh. he's a BC Racing vendor and can prob. get the coils even though he doesn't sell 'Stang parts. he offers free shipping on BC's usually.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Fella's. I've tried to stay mum here, but I can't do it anymore.

There is no corner on who can make good parts and who can't. But much like anything else you might purchase, for any reason, you notice the names you know are the products that work better?

Tell me anything at all to convince me why BC or Megan is superior or even as good as something else?

Damping curves? Spring rates? Warranty? Where are they made? How is the valving settled on? How are the spring rates decided on? What was their test bed?

It takes more than being "coil-overs" to be good.
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
Fella's. I've tried to stay mum here, but I can't do it anymore.

There is no corner on who can make good parts and who can't. But much like anything else you might purchase, for any reason, you notice the names you know are the products that work better?

Tell me anything at all to convince me why BC or Megan is superior or even as good as something else?

Damping curves? Spring rates? Warranty? Where are they made? How is the valving settled on? How are the spring rates decided on? What was their test bed?

It takes more than being "coil-overs" to be good.
there's extensive info on BC. Megan is crap due to the specs they have BC build thier(Megan) coils. I'm not going to post specs of BC when they can easily be found. for a budget coil they are a very good "bang for the buck". are the KW's or Cusco's? no. the OP asked about BC and other members brought up Megan. i pass first hand knowledge from my own experience. am i a professional? no, but i have over 200 hours of seat time @ Limerock over the years. i've wasted a lot of $ on suspension set-ups. i don't think any DD Mustang should be on coils. springs, bumpsteer and watts-link are fine for most drivers who want to autox or do some llight track time. the OP should autox with stock suspension first to learn the linits, then build from there.
and to say "There is no corner on who can make good parts and who can't." is bad advice. as a national champ, you know that's not true. R&D determines how good a product is and R&D cost $. as you know for sure most companies just slap thier names products made by the larger companies. or they just copy the design and have the products manufactured in China.

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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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And yet nothing about the dampers or spring rates. There is nobody that has a corner on anything, look Hyundai is making some pretty freaking good cars--once they cared to do it and learn how. Do not take that to mean I think any shock or coil-over is good. In fact that's exactly what I am saying here, I am more than a little skeptical of these.

To be honest, that's understating matters, I'm more than a *little* skeptical.

So.... enlighten me, what makes these so good? In comparison to what? Etc, etc.?

Yes, I'm a shock snob, and frankly tossing KW and Cusco together is amusing, and KW frankly do not in general work as well as a set of say Koni Sports do in most cased, let alone a really nice set of dampers like Ohlins (not for a Mustang, just an example) or Koni 28-series.

Seriously. Their website says, basically: Our stuff is good. Ok. I also notice they are typical linked compression and rebound on the adjustment which is always how the cheapest adjustables are because it's easy, and sounds impressive. Trouble is compression and rebound are very different and do very different things. Linking them is sort of a no-non because wanting more rebound doesn't at all mean you want more compression.

I'm willing to listen, but since shocks are the heart and soul of a suspension and how well it works, I'm hard to convince.
Old Jan 25, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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you can choose your own spring rate front or rear. compared to Megan, which was the original ponit, tube thickness is greater in the BC. you didn't do a great search. there is plenty of technical data available. they are just mcpherson's just like everyother coil system. and Cusco's are on the same level of KW. Most Mustang owners lack knowledge on suspension work. Japanese and German suspension companies blow away most American companies. Handling is not an American priority, staight line is. so most Mustang owners will buy from less than par suspension companies. I own Ohlin's and JRZ's(best coil system i ever raced). Icy Racing used to use BC's in the Koni Cup. and i don't know why you care. not like you are gonna use them. you interject buy give no advice to the OP. i'm sure that you will recommend what ever products you sell on your site......

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