cobalts,neons etc.
6th Gear Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,575
From: United States
RE: cobalts,neons etc.
ORIGINAL: uofipilot
This doesn't even make sense. How are American made cars that actually put out huge numbers stock considered rice? Is it because of the stock wing? Mustang GTs have non-functional hood scoops and non-functional brake ducts...so are Mustangs rice? I surely think not. Is it because SRTs and Cobalts are four bangers with forced induction and not "muscle cars"? I surely hope not. Please educate yourself.
Matt
ORIGINAL: fastmofo
I apoligize wasnt trying to be ignorant at all I just said that in a 1/4 mile drag race even if the srt-4 is a 14.0 second car the 4.6 gt comes in at 14.0 @98 mph.I know this because I own a 01 GT that "was" completly stock came in at those numbers at the drag strip.What I did say is that I am hearing from the 4 banger group peole say that the rice burners like the cobalt SS and the srt-4 will walk all over a GT like it's nothing.all in all im not knocking the cobalt nor the srt-4.
I apoligize wasnt trying to be ignorant at all I just said that in a 1/4 mile drag race even if the srt-4 is a 14.0 second car the 4.6 gt comes in at 14.0 @98 mph.I know this because I own a 01 GT that "was" completly stock came in at those numbers at the drag strip.What I did say is that I am hearing from the 4 banger group peole say that the rice burners like the cobalt SS and the srt-4 will walk all over a GT like it's nothing.all in all im not knocking the cobalt nor the srt-4.
Matt
What has the world come to?
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 678
RE: cobalts,neons etc.
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
What has the world come to?
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So is the 260 hp at the crank of a Mustang GT "huge numbers?" A stock SRT4 weighs barely 3000 pounds and puts out about 225 WHP. I know Dodge rated them lower, but they are indeed underrated. Look at stock dyno graphs if you don't believe me. But that's not the point. The point is that a stock Mustang GT puts out 245 (ballpark) WHP and an SRT (a few hundred pounds lighter) puts out 225 WHP. To me, that's not a very big difference.
Moral of the story - People do not give other cars/owners respect. If you don't like what someone is saying, ignore it or race them and beat them. Bitching on the Internet about how someone in a turbo four banger is trash-talking your Mustang isn't going to get you anywhere.
Matt
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Joined: Jan 2006
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RE: cobalts,neons etc.
ORIGINAL: TommyV8
Stock, street-tired supercharged Cobalts are very solid mid 14 second cars (maybe even low?) and will trap at about 100. With some traction and a favorable DA I wouldn't be surprised to see a stock one kiss 13.9.
Let us know when this actually happens and post a slip.
Stock, street-tired supercharged Cobalts are very solid mid 14 second cars (maybe even low?) and will trap at about 100. With some traction and a favorable DA I wouldn't be surprised to see a stock one kiss 13.9.
ORIGINAL: UrSSlow
For $1500 i'll have a Slobalt in the high 12's.
For $1500 i'll have a Slobalt in the high 12's.
Joined: Nov 2005
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RE: cobalts,neons etc.
I still love the " Cobalt SS/SC is a high 14 second low 15 second car " bull****.
My 2001 Z24 with 139whp ran a 15.2 and a 2006 SS 2.4VVT with 145whp runs 15.1-15.3.
So how does a car that weighs the same as the SS 2.4VVT but has 75 more whp run the same times?
Just asking.
My 2001 Z24 with 139whp ran a 15.2 and a 2006 SS 2.4VVT with 145whp runs 15.1-15.3.
So how does a car that weighs the same as the SS 2.4VVT but has 75 more whp run the same times?
Just asking.
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,411
From: Woodbridge, VA
RE: cobalts,neons etc.
ORIGINAL: nanaki
simple. the driver. the AVERAGE cobalt driver will run a high 14 low 15. the AVERAGE 99+ GT driver will run a mid 14. plain and simple. now drop it.
simple. the driver. the AVERAGE cobalt driver will run a high 14 low 15. the AVERAGE 99+ GT driver will run a mid 14. plain and simple. now drop it.
yes please do.
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RE: cobalts,neons etc.
ORIGINAL: 757GT
I still want to know when Cobalts starting trapping 100+?????????????? Most trap mid 90s so I don't see how they are faster than a 99-04 GT which traps high 90s stock.
I still want to know when Cobalts starting trapping 100+?????????????? Most trap mid 90s so I don't see how they are faster than a 99-04 GT which traps high 90s stock.
6th Gear Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 10,639
From: IL
RE: cobalts,neons etc.
ORIGINAL: UrSSlow
They'll do that with MODs, not stock. Mid 90's is best I seen in stock form. But needless to say, with drag radials with would trap 100+, but then the any car would trap higher with drag radials.
ORIGINAL: 757GT
I still want to know when Cobalts starting trapping 100+?????????????? Most trap mid 90s so I don't see how they are faster than a 99-04 GT which traps high 90s stock.
I still want to know when Cobalts starting trapping 100+?????????????? Most trap mid 90s so I don't see how they are faster than a 99-04 GT which traps high 90s stock.