civic hatch
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From: NC
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: 00raging stang
and gay as hell who would ever dump money into a civic you must be gay to do that
ORIGINAL: KTownGT
Well obviously there are fast civics, but 99.9999999999999% of them are slowwwww.
ORIGINAL: 5IVE.OH
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
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RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: Jaggezz
You're kidding me, right?
I've seen Honda turbo kits sell for $3000+, and they only claim like 240 hp. Now for 5000, I could make a stroker with somewhere around 400rwhp. Naturally aspirated.
ORIGINAL: secondhandloser
ANYTHING that wants to be truly fast needs a swap... unless you count supercars and stuff.
Besides, not every Honda needs a swap. Where the heck do you think they get the engines from in the first place?
And to the comment about a 347 stroker destroying a Civic... well... yeah. but then you aren't even talking remotely the same amount of money into the cars.
ORIGINAL: Clif Brohn
Anything that requires an engine swap is slow, period. I dont mean to rant, but it bothers me when people try telling me how "fast" hondas and acuras are, when every "fast" honda or acura they mention has an engine swap. It really is lame.
ORIGINAL: 5IVE.OH
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Besides, not every Honda needs a swap. Where the heck do you think they get the engines from in the first place?
And to the comment about a 347 stroker destroying a Civic... well... yeah. but then you aren't even talking remotely the same amount of money into the cars.
I've seen Honda turbo kits sell for $3000+, and they only claim like 240 hp. Now for 5000, I could make a stroker with somewhere around 400rwhp. Naturally aspirated.
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 479
From: Annapolis, Maryland
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: snakeman4life
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
ORIGINAL: Jaggezz
You're kidding me, right?
I've seen Honda turbo kits sell for $3000+, and they only claim like 240 hp. Now for 5000, I could make a stroker with somewhere around 400rwhp. Naturally aspirated.
ORIGINAL: secondhandloser
ANYTHING that wants to be truly fast needs a swap... unless you count supercars and stuff.
Besides, not every Honda needs a swap. Where the heck do you think they get the engines from in the first place?
And to the comment about a 347 stroker destroying a Civic... well... yeah. but then you aren't even talking remotely the same amount of money into the cars.
ORIGINAL: Clif Brohn
Anything that requires an engine swap is slow, period. I dont mean to rant, but it bothers me when people try telling me how "fast" hondas and acuras are, when every "fast" honda or acura they mention has an engine swap. It really is lame.
ORIGINAL: 5IVE.OH
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Besides, not every Honda needs a swap. Where the heck do you think they get the engines from in the first place?
And to the comment about a 347 stroker destroying a Civic... well... yeah. but then you aren't even talking remotely the same amount of money into the cars.
I've seen Honda turbo kits sell for $3000+, and they only claim like 240 hp. Now for 5000, I could make a stroker with somewhere around 400rwhp. Naturally aspirated.
True fact.
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From: NC
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: snakeman4life
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone. I know there are a lot of ****box civics out there, mostly because they are cheap as hell and there are TONS of parts for them... but there are a few legitimately fast ones too. You never know what you might get smoked by!
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From: VA
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: snakeman4life
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
and like snake said, there ARE fast Honda's out there. own by enthusiasts, and not the next door neighbors son whos 16 and who's a ricer. big difference. the majority of the time, Honda's are slow. ive driven some quick ones. VERY quick ones. but, still......
ya know Snake......if i was you, id laugh at 'em anyway
ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone.
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone.
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From: NC
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
are you serious ??!! thats ridiculous. so, youre saying youre gonna buy a Honda ??
are you serious ??!! thats ridiculous. so, youre saying youre gonna buy a Honda ??
Just because there are fast Civics, doesn't mean I would own one =P
The only Honda I would ever even consider owning is an S2k... and even then it would require heavy modification / engine swappage before I would be really happy with driving it.
The motor in my car alone cost more than most entire Honda builds... including the cost of the Honda
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,867
From: VA
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed
Whoa whoa whoa, let's not get crazy here!!
Just because there are fast Civics, doesn't mean I would own one =P
The only Honda I would ever even consider owning is an S2k... and even then it would require heavy modification / engine swappage before I would be really happy with driving it.
The motor in my car alone cost more than most entire Honda builds... including the cost of the Honda
Whoa whoa whoa, let's not get crazy here!!
Just because there are fast Civics, doesn't mean I would own one =P
The only Honda I would ever even consider owning is an S2k... and even then it would require heavy modification / engine swappage before I would be really happy with driving it.
The motor in my car alone cost more than most entire Honda builds... including the cost of the Honda
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RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
i agree. with everything. this section has become a sort of "hate on 'Stang" section lately. honestly, i dont like it either.
and like snake said, there ARE fast Honda's out there. own by enthusiasts, and not the next door neighbors son whos 16 and who's a ricer. big difference. the majority of the time, Honda's are slow. ive driven some quick ones. VERY quick ones. but, still......
ya know Snake......if i was you, id laugh at 'em anyway
are you serious ??!! thats ridiculous. so, youre saying youre gonna buy a Honda ??
ORIGINAL: snakeman4life
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
and like snake said, there ARE fast Honda's out there. own by enthusiasts, and not the next door neighbors son whos 16 and who's a ricer. big difference. the majority of the time, Honda's are slow. ive driven some quick ones. VERY quick ones. but, still......
ya know Snake......if i was you, id laugh at 'em anyway
ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone.
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone.
One of the clowns is putting a T7 turbo on his stock,smoking billion mile Integtra just to outrun his buddies S/C'd Mustang.He's so good with Hondas he's not gonna bother with changing injectors or a tune,or even a intercooler for that matter.He says his stock motor will hold 15-20 psi no problem[sm=lol.gif].This is the kind of crap I have to deal with everyday.I just want to be around the first time he stands on it to see if his connecting rods outrun his car,that is if his weak *** LS motor can even spin the turbo fast enough to do anything.BTW a 700hp Civic is friggin sick!!!!!!!! But I wouldn't want it either.
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Posts: 1,078
From: Lynchburg, Virginia
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: Jaggezz
You're kidding me, right?
I've seen Honda turbo kits sell for $3000+, and they only claim like 240 hp. Now for 5000, I could make a stroker with somewhere around 400rwhp. Naturally aspirated.
ORIGINAL: secondhandloser
ANYTHING that wants to be truly fast needs a swap... unless you count supercars and stuff.
Besides, not every Honda needs a swap. Where the heck do you think they get the engines from in the first place?
And to the comment about a 347 stroker destroying a Civic... well... yeah. but then you aren't even talking remotely the same amount of money into the cars.
ORIGINAL: Clif Brohn
Anything that requires an engine swap is slow, period. I dont mean to rant, but it bothers me when people try telling me how "fast" hondas and acuras are, when every "fast" honda or acura they mention has an engine swap. It really is lame.
ORIGINAL: 5IVE.OH
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Obviously, but to just throw out that turbo civics are slow is pretty general. A properly tuned turbo civic with a H22 engine swap will eat his mustang.
Besides, not every Honda needs a swap. Where the heck do you think they get the engines from in the first place?
And to the comment about a 347 stroker destroying a Civic... well... yeah. but then you aren't even talking remotely the same amount of money into the cars.
I've seen Honda turbo kits sell for $3000+, and they only claim like 240 hp. Now for 5000, I could make a stroker with somewhere around 400rwhp. Naturally aspirated.
& congrats on the kill...theres no telling what he had or if he was trully boost or not, but what really matters is that you handed him his ***
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,078
From: Lynchburg, Virginia
RE: civic hatch
ORIGINAL: snakeman4life
Well I don't laugh to much,as long as they leave my car out of it One of the clowns is putting a T7 turbo on his stock,smoking billion mile Integtra just to outrun his buddies S/C'd Mustang.He's so good with Hondas he's not gonna bother with changing injectors or a tune,or even a intercooler for that matter.He says his stock motor will hold 15-20 psi no problem[sm=lol.gif].This is the kind of crap I have to deal with everyday.I just want to be around the first time he stands on it to see if his connecting rods outrun his car,that is if his weak *** LS motor can even spin the turbo fast enough to do anything.BTW a 700hp Civic is friggin sick!!!!!!!! But I wouldn't want it either.
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
i agree. with everything. this section has become a sort of "hate on 'Stang" section lately. honestly, i dont like it either.
and like snake said, there ARE fast Honda's out there. own by enthusiasts, and not the next door neighbors son whos 16 and who's a ricer. big difference. the majority of the time, Honda's are slow. ive driven some quick ones. VERY quick ones. but, still......
ya know Snake......if i was you, id laugh at 'em anyway
are you serious ??!! thats ridiculous. so, youre saying youre gonna buy a Honda ??
ORIGINAL: snakeman4life
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
WTF is going on around here? Now people question Honda kills and talk about how H22 Blah,blah,blah will kill a Mustang.The S/S section it seems is quickly becoming a Mustang hate fest and a love fest for everything else.Trust me,I know there are fast Hondas out there,and I can respect them,but I see a hell of alot more of the slow side of things,I work with a few honda folks,and they talk all this junk about B16 this,JDM that,and going to the street races and beating this that and the other.Well the sad fact of the matter is my fuggin slowbalt will kill every one of them,and I hardly consider it a fast car.But I do realize these guys are ricers,not tuners,BIG DIFFERENCE.I'm pretty much surrounded by them,so I just keep my mouth shut and try not to laugh when they start talking crap,trust me sometimes it's hard.
and like snake said, there ARE fast Honda's out there. own by enthusiasts, and not the next door neighbors son whos 16 and who's a ricer. big difference. the majority of the time, Honda's are slow. ive driven some quick ones. VERY quick ones. but, still......
ya know Snake......if i was you, id laugh at 'em anyway
ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone.
I know for a fact there are several 700+whp street-driven civics in my area alone.
One of the clowns is putting a T7 turbo on his stock,smoking billion mile Integtra just to outrun his buddies S/C'd Mustang.He's so good with Hondas he's not gonna bother with changing injectors or a tune,or even a intercooler for that matter.He says his stock motor will hold 15-20 psi no problem[sm=lol.gif].This is the kind of crap I have to deal with everyday.I just want to be around the first time he stands on it to see if his connecting rods outrun his car,that is if his weak *** LS motor can even spin the turbo fast enough to do anything.BTW a 700hp Civic is friggin sick!!!!!!!! But I wouldn't want it either.