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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Remember, it's not how much smoke you shoot up, it's how fast your tires are spinning that makes them the hottest.
Correct - the mistake most beginners make in a burnout is watching their rpm's. What you should be focused on is your MPH. A decent burnout, you want the mph to be in the 50-60 mph rabge for a good 3 seconds. Now the second gear comes into play depending on your gearing set-up in your car. If you can reach 50-60 mph in 1st then that's what you use. If it takes 2nd, then that's what you use - easy peasy...
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Remember, it's not how much smoke you shoot up, it's how fast your tires are spinning that makes them the hottest.
Correct - the mistake most beginners make in a burnout is watching their rpm's. What you should be focused on is your MPH. A decent burnout, you want the mph to be in the 50-60 mph rabge for a good 3 seconds. Now the second gear comes into play depending on your gearing set-up in your car. If you can reach 50-60 mph in 1st then that's what you use. If it takes 2nd, then that's what you use - easy peasy...
so would you start in 2nd? or shift to get there?
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Remember, it's not how much smoke you shoot up, it's how fast your tires are spinning that makes them the hottest.
Correct - the mistake most beginners make in a burnout is watching their rpm's. What you should be focused on is your MPH. A decent burnout, you want the mph to be in the 50-60 mph rabge for a good 3 seconds. Now the second gear comes into play depending on your gearing set-up in your car. If you can reach 50-60 mph in 1st then that's what you use. If it takes 2nd, then that's what you use - easy peasy...
that statement is for hardcore race cars or cars with some powerwithlowergearsIMO. i personally don't think this guy at that power level needs 60mph burnout.



Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Remember, it's not how much smoke you shoot up, it's how fast your tires are spinning that makes them the hottest.
Correct - the mistake most beginners make in a burnout is watching their rpm's. What you should be focused on is your MPH. A decent burnout, you want the mph to be in the 50-60 mph rabge for a good 3 seconds. Now the second gear comes into play depending on your gearing set-up in your car. If you can reach 50-60 mph in 1st then that's what you use. If it takes 2nd, then that's what you use - easy peasy...
so would you start in 2nd? or shift to get there?
Dude, DONT DO IT. trust me you dont need 2nd gear burnout. just burn them on 1st gear. start in water box and roll out of water box and try to burn them ondry ground and roll to staging line. Your car will H-O-O-K.

as i mentioned above, hardcore racers might wanna consider 2nd gear burnout so they can all the power to the ground. my buddy has 470+rwhp car with like 450rwtq and i told him to burn them up on dry ground and he did burn them for like 3-4 secs on 1st gear and dumped the clutch at 5k RPM and hooked like a ****.

i totally disagree people who suggest to people here doing 2nd or 3rd gear burnout. it is better burnout and it makes your tire very hot which makes them hook great but are we having traction problems with slicks with 300-400hp cars????

another thing is, if you don't have slicks, you don't wanna do 2nd gear burnout no matter what you put down cuz with nittos if you do 2nd gear butnout, it won't hook any better. with nittos you dont wanna rev up very high and dump cuz they ain't slicks, they will spin. with nittos you wanna rev up 3-4k and play with the cluch at launch and it will work great.

these are my opinion.

Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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I used to like to ****** 2nd in the box just to get a rile out of the crowd, of course, mine was a proshifted 4 speed, so it was a breeze. NEVER burnout in the waterbox...drive through it and then burnout. It's great to have a friend help you, as I always did.

About the MT's and burning out dry...I had slicks on once and went to burnout with hardly any water and the car just hopped like a SOB...needless to say my friends scared the hell out of the guy who does the water at the track. The next time I pulled through it looked like a small pond.

About the Nitto's, I used to do a LONG 2nd gear burnout, til smoke was rolling. Then come into it around 3k.I think I have the record, as far as this site, for the quickest short time on Nitto's. 1.6x with a stock suspension and a measily 367rwhp.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Just a quick comment to doodad...

You keep mentioning Nittos. I've used them, and they gripped no better than KDW street tires, whether on the street or the track. After a 15-second burnout, they gripped SLIGHTLY better than street tires. (yes I'm referring to the drag radials)

Compared with a real tire, such as a Hoosier DOT DR or MT ET Street, they are garbage from my personal experience.

What is your secret to making them actually hook? I couldn't grip from 2500rpm, while I can't spin from 5000rpm now.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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I don't know why everyone has a problem with them. I went constant 1.7's and occasional 1.6's with them. I also drove them around everyday. I turned many locals opinions on the tires. Hell, I had no idea how they'd hook, so I'm in no way a sponsor for them.... I just bought them for everyday street use and happen to have major luck with them.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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I always do a second gear burnout then power shift to third.My car does run low 10s and makes massive power to do so no line lock and 3yrs straight and over 500 passes this way the only thing its hard on is the rear brakes.The clutch is also 3yrs old and holding fine.Never leave you tires in the water or burn out box roll through to at least 4ft out then do your burnout.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:57 AM
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Just a quick comment to doodad...

You keep mentioning Nittos. I've used them, and they gripped no better than KDW street tires, whether on the street or the track. After a 15-second burnout, they gripped SLIGHTLY better than street tires. (yes I'm referring to the drag radials)

Compared with a real tire, such as a Hoosier DOT DR or MT ET Street, they are garbage from my personal experience.

What is your secret to making them actually hook? I couldn't grip from 2500rpm, while I can't spin from 5000rpm now.
well, i have heard the same thing from other people that they couldn't hook and i really don't understand. i ut consistent 1.7 60' with 275/40/17 nittos. I slip the clutch evertime i launched with them.

check this video out and see how i slip the clutch and launch. I cut 1.76 60' on this run and i am not even reving any higher than 3k due to weak halfshafts.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...5d01808933.htm

that is the way i launch and they hook great. track prep is very important though. now i have 3.55s compare to your 4.30s or 4.10s but i put down 480rwtq so i guess it evens it out. you just need to burn them a few seconds and slip the clutch and it works. now if ou rev high and launch like you got slicks on, they won't hook. i tried and they spun like street tires and i found different technic that works and i do that all the time.

i drove another car with nittos on which made 450rwtq and i cut 1.8 60' but i wasn't used to the car and still worked.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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man Doodad.... your blower screaaaaaaammmmmsssssss... nice run!!



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